Anybody seen this yet. They take 450cc single dirtbikes and change out front and rear suspensions and wheels, throw some fairing an them, and track'em.

Check thie link:

http://www.450moto.com/

 

If they come out with a kit - and it works on a CR500R - i'll be first in line to get a crazy two stroked street bike up and running. Good bye GB, hello fun.

 

Yeah there was a thread on this a month or so ago. Looks like a great concept, hopefully they can offer some budget packages

 

Or you could just buy a duck mono




Modified by MSchu at 12:25 PM 11/30/2007

 

yes, i read an articcle about them a few months ago in a magazine. they are even trying to start a 450 class for them in the AMA series, as a beginner series. if it happens, bye bye med school! here i come motorcycle racing

 

thats a sweet concept! Give me a YZ250 with fairings and street suspension.

 

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Yamaha is already bringing out a 250 four-stroke supermoto.

 

as awesome as these bikes are, just imagine how much better and cheaper they would be with two stroke engines. i mean you can do a complete overhaul on a two stroke 250 for around 200-300$. which is nothing, ******* tree huggers

 

Hopefully, it produces some good racing.

 

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******* luddites

The 4 strokes arent the end of the damn world. I'm watching this closely - if its approved for WERA then I'm going to build one

 

I read in cycleworld that they are approved for WERA and will be racing them in 2008. If successful, they are going to try to bring it to AMA.

 

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******* luddites

The 4 strokes arent the end of the damn world. I'm watching this closely - if its approved for WERA then I'm going to build one </TD></TR></TABLE>
your 28, so im guessing your alot more stable than me financial wise. maybe you can afford to rebuild those 4 stroke engines every couple of races, but for a college student or younger people (which this bike is intended for) thats considred big money. im not being a lil whiny bitch now, im still greatfull that there are people out there thinking of broke wanna be racers (me) that can get their foot wet with a series like this.
just look at spain and italy, the only reason they have so many great riders is because of their 125, 250 series. none of those riders jumped on a 600cc bike right away.

 

Well, if you have the drive then you can race as a college student. The expected build cost of one of the 450's was placed at around $10k for a competitive bike - if they can run as an AMA support series, that is cheap cheap cheap. If you want cheap racing then buy a EX500 or SV650 and race those, it can be done on a budget. If you wanted to race a 450, then no reason you couldnt get a season on an engine, IMO as long as you arent pushing for max HP.

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Who won the last two GP championships? An australian and an american, both with dirt track backgrounds

A 125/250 GP bike is not low maintenance either - for their size they make big power and the component lifespan is very, very short. Push the envelope, rebuilds are more frequent and you run a higher budget - it doesnt matter whether its a 2-smoker or a thumper

 

Actually, I think the rules wont allow you to build for max HP.

 

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Carb/compression restrictions?

 

I've always seen it explained that they want components to be as stock as possible to keep costs down and competition tight.

 

the bikes sound great as of now. i just hope they put restrictions on the shocks and forks assembly. not every one ca nafford those fancy ohlins shocks

 

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Ah, the logical fallacies of restricting the rules in the name of reduced costs.

Unfortunately, it never works. I hope its fun for at least the first few years.

 

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Or a thousand prostitutes at the same time.

 

**** that's awesome, when can i put a deposit down??

 

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You're referring to the thousand prostitutes yes?

If you were talking about the bike, I didn't read the link but I think you start with a 450cc dirtbike of your choice.

 

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Are you racing something now? There are plenty of budget friendly places to race with wera/ccs/etc.... and none of them involved starting with a 450cc dirt bike.

 

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pm'd

 

Yamaha had one of these at the Cycle World International Motorcycle show this past weekend in Long Beach. Definitely cool to see. Going to post up a picture soon.


Modified by b18C1_liLkyLe at 2:01 AM 12/10/2007