OK heres my poll... i currently own a very clean '96 cypress green Gs-R 120kmiles bone stock. i live in a suburban area where theres not many nice cars around... so the other day i spy with my little eye a white integra for sale in a local grocery store parking lot. i approach it from behind, its an ls that has been painted white i park, walk around to the front of the car and what do i see but a very nicely done Jdm front end conversion. I love the jdm front end and thought id never be able to spend that kind of money on a part, just for looks. so the ls has the jdm conversion, hids, adjustable coilovers, new rims and tires, esparco steering wheel, 2way alarm, intake, and skunk2 catback exhaust. all fairly new looking. i talk to the owner the next day and find out that the engine was just rebuilt to stock specs and has 3k miles on it, nice! guy wants $5700 OBO. so my plan in a perfect world would be: get a loan, buy the ls, sell my gsr to pay off the loan shortly after, clean and simple. try to keep when voting that my plans for the gsr when i bought were i/h/e and suspension done right nothing special or overt.
(sorry about the long post heres the poll, thanks for your votes/opinions welcome!)

 

im thinking that clean ls, new motor, with those mods and a JDM front end! (thats big for me, id be the only person around with a jdm front+i think they look damn good) all for $5700... i gotta ****** this up before its too late. thing is im 17 senior in hs part time job id need my parents to co-sign on the loan, and they dont understand why this ls would be such a step up for me and are not so keen on me selling my gsr which i was originally so fond of. that car is all i can think about right now. just the idea of someone buying it out from under me is keeping me up at night... lame ik but this car is sick i want it bad.

 

Get a loan and get the JDM front for the GS-R

 

I've been in the same boat before.

If you can, get the LS. While you sacrifice some performance, you're also gaining the suspension mods you wanted, and the JDM nose you so desire.

One thing to tell your parents about ... insurance on an LS is cheaper, especially for a high-school kid. They look at that, believe it or not.

 

good point! thanks

 

ill try to get some good pics of each car and post them up. i have a crappy camera. so they probably wont do either car justice...

 

just a question for someone with knowledge about this. the ls has a stock header. i have a greddy header on my gsr which i have been told is a decent header for the dc2. after-market headers interchangeable from gsr to ls? (will gsr header fit onto ls) ive heard that most parts for hondas are interchangeable but the dc gsrs are kind of wacky. like that gd 2stage intake manifold. just curious

 

dude, you have to be kidding me that you would give up a gsr for an ls. I drive both almost every day of the summer and it's night and day. Spend the money on your car!

 

yea im aware of the power loss but think about the opportunity a very clean 94 with a 3k rebuilt motor JDM front(as i said thats huge for me) and all the mods that i had planed for my gsr all for 5700 + its local! less than a mile from my house what are the odds of that in a small suburban area? also i plan to do a ls/vtec if all goes as planned. so i wouldn't be at a loss for power after that.

 

Yeah dude LS vtec is awesome if its done right.. Going from a GSR to an LS would suck for a bit, but with the JDM front and knowing your gonna get ls vtec, I'd probably do it. Hopefully you'll talk your parents into it.

 

thanks for the support. i never thought id be able to have a jdm front because its such an expense. so this seems like the only way it could happen, and id be grinning ear to ear each time i look at the front end.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by g3Gsr443 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">just a question for someone with knowledge about this. the ls has a stock header. i have a greddy header on my gsr which i have been told is a decent header for the dc2. after-market headers interchangeable from gsr to ls? (will gsr header fit onto ls) ive heard that most parts for hondas are interchangeable but the dc gsrs are kind of wacky. like that gd 2stage intake manifold. just curious </TD></TR></TABLE>

 

If I was in your position, I'd keep the GS-R, work my way from there and buy the mods on my own. I wouldn't want to downgrade and buy an LS just because it has all the aftermarket parts I ever wanted, insurance will be cheaper, has a freshly rebuilt motor, etc.

You're missing out on the fun when purchasing one part after another. You should appreciate what you buy because you worked for it. Do you know what I mean? I doubt you even want those "specific" parts. I understand about the 2-way alarm, but the Skunk2 catback exhaust, new rims and tires, Sparco steering wheel, and intake? Really now? Anyway, you know your car inside and out, you don't know specifically what has been done on the LS. Keep your car.

Like I said, if I was in your position, I'd keep the GS-R. But to "each his own."


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Wow... I didn't know they also based it on trims. I would it was just only be based on the usual, if's it's a 2-door or a 4-door kind of thing. I guess it's true what they say, you learn something new everyday.


Modified by Pat_S at 8:16 PM 11/29/2007


Modified by Pat_S at 8:18 PM 11/29/2007

 

yea thats a good point. but i was looking at either rsr or skunk2 exhaust and the rims on there were the ones i wanted for my gsr but a different color, steering wheel would b a bonus and an intake is an intake not much varies from one to the other. but your point is valid, thank you for your input.

 

I don't like buying a car that someone else hooked up. If its cheaper for you to get the ls, then do it. Aint nothing like having your bills paid off. But I personally would keep the gsr for its performance it already has stock, and modify it how I like it.
Is there anything wrong with your gsr? I know you want the ls cause it has the conversion, but are you also trying to get rid of your gsr because of the mileage it has? Just cause it has 120*** miles on it, doesn't mean its time to get rid of it.

 

Its so sad that you would trade your GSR for an LS which was someone elses project car. I would never buy someone elses project. I also like to build my own car from stock, not buy it built from some random person. You might be a little young to understand ,but once you do get the LS with "everything you ever wanted", you'll regret it after a few months knowing that you'll have to either swap your engine and tranny or boost the LS just because you downgraded.

Wow those headlights and steering wheel on that LS look so nice in the rearview mirror of your gsr.

 

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Seriously, I second that. I wouldn't buy a car that someone else hooked up either, but if the car is close to stock or has a mild list of mods (that can easily be returned to stock)... Now that's a different story. I'd jump on it in a blink of an eye, but what g3Gsr443 has mentioned about this "LS," I wouldn't buy it. I'd keep the geezer.

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Yeah, if it's cheaper for you, won't give you much of a hard time, and will help having your bills paid off in some way... Then DO IT.

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But I personally would keep the gsr for its performance it already has stock, and modify it how I like it.</TD></TR></TABLE>
My thoughts exactly, that was basically my point on what I've said. Starting from scratch.

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Is there anything wrong with your gsr? I know you want the ls cause it has the conversion, but are you also trying to get rid of your gsr because of the mileage it has? Just cause it has 120*** miles on it, doesn't mean its time to get rid of it.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah, I hope it's not because the mileage it has. I've heard about one integra having about 250K miles on it and it's still running fine. Obviously, due to alittle rebuild here and there. So yeah, I'm sticking to my word, keep the GS-R, and rebuild it.

It'll just be a freshly rebuilt motor (stock specs) like the LS has, but with 120K miles.

 

Does he have all paper work showing it just got rebuilt? The JDM front does not cost that much. I'm on the market for one. I think max i'm going to spend is 1200. Paint is whole other story lol. But if i were you work and buy the parts.

 

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BTW, is anyone going to answer his question?

 

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STFU

OP: I'm not sure that the 94 would be worth that much.

How many miles are on the body? If it's over 140k-ish, then it's not worth that much IMO.

If it's under 100,000, how the hell did he blow the motor?

IF it was just repainted, it might rust out in &gt; 1 year, you never know.

 

i understand the idea of not liking to buy a car that has been heavily modified. but this car has light modification, i wouldn't call it a "project car" imo a project car would be like my brothers car ('95 eg hatch poor man's type r swap intake exhaust, stage 2 launch, and tuned ecu) an unreliable car, because the engine has been heavily modified and is not running a stock ecu.

he claims the engine was rebuilt recently and has 3k on it, need to ask about mileage on the body. I'm going to ask for paper-work next time i see him, and ask why it was rebuilt. i was under the impression that the jdm front conversion can cost around 3grand w/ parts, paint, and labor.

nothing wrong with my gsr other than some normal maintenance needed ik 120k isnt bad at all the car still runs strong. i love the car and appreciate what i have, but I don't only have eyes for the gsr, if i can get something (imo) even better why not?

AWD terror- how much in your opinion do you think the ls is worth? because i think a clean integra w/ a practically new motor and a few quality mods is a very nice car for someone of my age and position in life.

 

to those who think i should keep my car and work to buy similar parts, consider this:
i am 17, last year of high school, part time job. im going to college next year and i don't think im going to have the time/money to modify my car i would like to (similar to the ls) if i keep my car i could save over winter and maybe get i/h/e and lowering springs for my car and get minimal performance gain. or i could get the ls which already has i/h/e and better suspension parts than i could probably afford for the gsr by spring, and spend that same amount of money saved over winter and get a ls/vtec setup, and probably have money left over for whatever. i do appreciate the advice and insight you all have given me. thank you. anyone feel free to answer that previous question about the header

 

i was in your situation for a bit. in college w a shitty part time job. there was almost no way in hell i coulda saved up for those mods with my work income alone. i would do it bucz you can always find a good deal on a motor and just drop it in.

 

oh and as for the question about the gsr header fitting on the ls. im pretty sure it does bcuz i remember one of my friends buying a greddy header that was on a 96 gsr and bolted it up to his 91 ls

 

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Yeah i'm glad you hear the header was good for a dc2. A few of them came with different motors. Do some research, you will see how much better the gsr is. You will get to mod it yourself=learn alot. If you like to look at cars get the ls. If you like to drive cars keep the gsr.