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Old Nov 28, 2007 | 07:44 PM
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Im going to be putting in som dsm eclipse peak and hold 240ccs into my honda civic 1999 dx coupe d16y7, and i was told i need to fab a resistor box out of 10 watt 10ohm resisters, and to get and bore an injector seal kit. is this all i need or am i missing something?, and other helpful tips are greatly appreciated.
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Old Nov 28, 2007 | 08:23 PM
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Old Nov 28, 2007 | 08:46 PM
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Old Nov 28, 2007 | 08:58 PM
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Old Nov 28, 2007 | 09:02 PM
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a stock civic OBD0 resistor box would be fine.....
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Old Nov 29, 2007 | 07:34 AM
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Old Nov 29, 2007 | 05:45 PM
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Old Nov 29, 2007 | 06:27 PM
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i kindof need help....
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Old Nov 29, 2007 | 08:54 PM
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what do you need help on?
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Old Nov 29, 2007 | 09:03 PM
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I'm a bit confused.

Why are you upgrading to 240's.

There's nothing that you can do to a Y7 that would make Y8 injectors (DSM or Civic alike) do?

If you're boosting and you don't want to stress the fuel system (pump and injectors), you should upgrade to more than just 240's.
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Old Nov 29, 2007 | 09:27 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Syndacate &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If you're boosting and you don't want to stress the fuel system (pump and injectors), you should upgrade to more than just 240's.</TD></TR></TABLE>

i was thinking that too... but he didn't ask about that lol. i think he should call his tuner and ask what flow rate he should run.
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Old Nov 29, 2007 | 09:36 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bpkmrtoes &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

i was thinking that too... but he didn't ask about that lol. i think he should call his tuner and ask what flow rate he should run.</TD></TR></TABLE>

LoL

He's gonna be boosting to 170hp and running the duty cycle at 90% .
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Old Nov 29, 2007 | 10:09 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Syndacate &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">LoL

He's gonna be boosting to 170hp and running the duty cycle at 90% .</TD></TR></TABLE>

if he runs 90%, he'll probably be running fully open soon after his injectors fail from insufficient cooling.

to OP: you can find out what injector size you need by doing some math.

First you have to find the boost pressure ratio:
14.7+ Manifold Boost Pressure/14.7

then calculate your CFMs
CFM= Engine CID x MAX power RPM x Volumetric Efficiency x Pressure Ratio

then An estimate of the size you need:
Injector size in lb/hr = CFM x 0.44298/4

convert lb's to cc's and you're done!

oh yeah... you would still need a resistor box for PnH.


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Old Nov 29, 2007 | 10:30 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bpkmrtoes &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

if he runs 90%, he'll probably be running fully open soon after his injectors fail from insufficient cooling.

to OP: you can find out what injector size you need by doing some math.

First you have to find the boost pressure ratio:
14.7+ Manifold Boost Pressure/14.7

then calculate your CFMs
CFM= Engine CID x MAX power RPM x Volumetric Efficiency x Pressure Ratio

then An estimate of the size you need:
Injector size in lb/hr = CFM x 0.44298/4

convert lb's to cc's and you're done!

oh yeah... you would still need a resistor box for PnH.</TD></TR></TABLE>

LoL

He could just throw some 450's in there and let the tuner decide the duty cycle, it'd be much easier .
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Old Nov 30, 2007 | 04:57 PM
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yeah im running 190hp and ecu is tuned for 240s not gonna spend more money, and psi is 6, so dont talk **** if u have no idea retards. go run ur pieces of shiat with ur ****** in tha bak.
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Old Nov 30, 2007 | 05:23 PM
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I dont think DSM ever came 240cc. They came 310 and 440 and i believe a 510 for the EVO.
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Old Nov 30, 2007 | 08:41 PM
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well i see 240 hp and d16 in your sig... if its not the same project then my bad. i apologize.
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