ive never painted a pearl paint, so i was wondering if its any harder than a solid color to lay down, or if theres a certain "way" to spray a pearl paint.

if im not mistaken, granada blacl pearl has pearl in the basecoat, right?

 

you are corrent the pearl is mixed into the bascoat, jsut lay it down liek a bc/cc

 

cool thanks

 

granada black is a 2 stage

so just spray it like a base/clear. but dont forget to keep the gun tip on the same angle and same spray pattern through out the entire car or the pearl will not sit proper if you look at it carefully in some area's/

 

should pearls be applied fast like a regular solid, or a little slower?

 

when u mean applied fast do you mean the spread speed OR actual dry time?

also to be honest with you its hard to explain this question because it all depends on how good you are as a painter. everyone has their own technique and ways of doing this but general rule of thumb is if its a 2 stage paint just do it like every two stage paint applies.

 

Yep I agree, the color doesn't have much to do with gun travel speed. Any color can be applied fast or slow, a good experienced painter can paint fast with perfection. This color is black, so it will be forgiving and very easy to paint.

 

cool thanks for the input

 

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wow do you have painting experience? sure the basecoat will lay down just like any basecoat regardless of color. but as soon as you but the clear down dark colors will show many or all imperfections unlike light colors which will show alot harder...black is not a forgiving color at all...

 

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wow do you have painting experience? sure the basecoat will lay down just like any basecoat regardless of color. but as soon as you but the clear down dark colors will show many or all imperfections unlike light colors which will show alot harder...black is not a forgiving color at all...</TD></TR></TABLE>

Don't trip out because I have a different opinion than you. I'm a pro, trained by a pro, have many years experience, I-car, ASE, BASF certs. I see ALL imperfections regardless of color. I have many friends who paint, some for over 30 years, we all know black is a easy and forgiving to paint. Its funny how I never even mentioned imperfections and how they relate to black, and black vs light colors, I said "to paint". Please explain how an imperfection can show harder ? I would ask you how many years and jobs you've painted but I don't give a ****, and I respect that your entitled to your own opinion as well even if its different than mine.

 

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Don't trip out because I have a different opinion than you. I'm a pro, trained by a pro, have many years experience, I-car, ASE, BASF certs. I see ALL imperfections regardless of color. I have many friends who paint, some for over 30 years, we all know black is a easy and forgiving to paint. Its funny how I never even mentioned imperfections and how they relate to black, and black vs light colors, I said "to paint". Please explain how an imperfection can show harder ? I would ask you how many years and jobs you've painted but I don't give a ****, and I respect that your entitled to your own opinion as well even if its different than mine. </TD></TR></TABLE>

compare white to black then get back to me. thank you point proven

 

What point have you proven? That 2 people can have different opinions, sure. This thread is about painting black, IMO is very easy/forgiving, simple as that. Maybe I'm just used to it more than other people and painting is more of a second nature to me. I'm not talking about every in depth charictaristic of repairing/ restoring a car w/ a black paint job, just painting/ spaying it. That would be too much typing.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by VTEC_PRODUCTION &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

wow do you have painting experience? sure the basecoat will lay down just like any basecoat regardless of color. but as soon as you but the clear down dark colors will show many or all imperfections unlike light colors which will show alot harder...black is not a forgiving color at all...</TD></TR></TABLE>im with you bub, i did a black jdm front teg a while ago with my father and it SUCKED. he's been painting customs and rods and everything else for over 30 years so ill take his advice over anyone else's and he told me that doing bad bodywork before you paint, especially with a black car will bring out the imperfections drastically. but hey, everyone had their own opinions.

 

Thats common knowledge which I totaly agree with, and one of many charictaristics of black. The OP was asking how to spray it, not typical charictaristics of black in general and how imperfections stand out. Seems you guys don't understand that we are talking about the spraying/painting process and not the process as a whole deal, start to finish. The color will spray the same over good or bad body work. How noticible imperfections are and bad body work is NOT what we are talking about, until now lol.

 

so what are the chances of imperfections showing if i just scuff off clear coat and clean it, wipe down with mineral spirits and then paint ? ;]

 

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you are not considering everything bub! you think the exterior of a car that he wants to paint is in perfect condition? no i think not. if you thought about this then you wouldnt be saying the stupid **** you are now. any experienced painter can lay down paint well. if you dont want to talk about body work then fine/ a shitty painter im sure will have runs in their paint job and you think its hard to see with a dark color? hell no. so by what you said about you being certified and all this and that then maybe you are but you lack common sense which is a whole lot more important in order for you to not look like a complete dumbass

 

I posted to answer this question.

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How do you get so twisted up over this? Also where does this question refer to exterior condition?

No one asked about the basic characteristics of black paint jobs and general autobody repair. This question clearly referred to the application of the paint. Sorry I wasn't captain obvious and said imperfections and bad body work will be more noticeable, when no one asked about it. I honestly didn't think I had to go on about every detail of a color, when addressing a specific question. I'm just trying to help, sucks you didn't understand what my post was directed at and that you feel the need to twist my words.

 

fighting on the internet is like being in the special olympics.... even if you win your still retarded

 

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are you serious right now?....

 

wow! i get a kick out of reading some of these comments here on the paint and body forum

 

back on topic .... if you have done painting before you should be alright ... just be carfull of laying spots to heavy . good luck

 

Wow, I find it hillarious how your all arguing.. yet your all making the exact same point.

The OP simply asked how hard is it to spray granada black pearl... which PowerFlow explained to him.

Never did he state that Black hides imperfections, which any retard knows it doesnt. Black is an easy *** color to spray, thats all he said.

And to the OP, Depending on what paint company you go with, you may have a 3 stage paintjob (pearl will need to be applied after the black base), but most paint companies will have it 2 stage (base clear).

And as for the spraying part, dont worry about itm, its easy, If in doubt, on the last coat, after everything is covered, raise the pressure a bit and hold the gun a bit farther away, but not too far, and just keep an eye on the mettalics / pearl.

 

thanks this is the type of reply honda-tech members need to give everyone.

I've sprayed two cars before, but never a pearl, only solids. I'm thinking it wont be too hard.

I'm also thinking about painting the interior/engine bay blade silver, tuck and shave the bay, and paint the exterior nighthawk black pearl instead of granada, looks a bit deeper and smoother to me.

thanks for the help

 

Basic 2 stage pearls are easy, the heavy metallics can get a little tricky. No matter what color your spraying always concentrate on applying a nice, even, medium wet coat. That way you get use to it. Also if you spray black after a metallic out of the same gun, make sure you clean it out good and check for metallic contaminates w/ thinner before you strain the black into it.

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Yep, its funny I had to defend my advice.

 

I just painted my integra that color. The pearl is pretty light. Just spray your first couple coats to get coverage, and then one or two even coats at a little lower pressure. make sure to let the paint "flash" off in between coats.