f23 vtec wit h2b kit.. what do you guys/girls think of this swap in a 92-95 hatch???

 

torquey.

 

IS IT WORTH IT OR NOT.....

 

y u yellin

 

yes, we do a lot of F23 swaps these days. We really like these engines. We havent done a F2b yet but even with an H22 tranny the F23 is very fun and very cheap.

PS one thing to note with the F23, when tuning them they like the Vtec set very low

 

they sure are cheap torquey and easy to find...i say go for it

 

We prefer the non-vtec F22A engines because the heads flow a lot better. The F23 is good, when mated with one of our cam grinds, but for the ultimate in power, and reliability, the F22A1~6 is amazing!

 

so what about an f23 blocking with the f22 head?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by h2b_eg8 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so what about an f23 blocking with the f22 head?</TD></TR></TABLE>

This is what I'm trying right now. I hope to have it done by spring time. I'm using TSX pistons in the F23 bottom but need to find some ARP rod bolts that will work. The head is the easy part. I will be getting Bizi cam, springs, retainer's, and teflon exhaust spacers.

 

thanks alot guys big help i think i'm going to go for it... how much do you think i can get this motor for???
and how much power do you think i will get wit some bolt ons?? IHE crome tuned

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Bisimoto &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">We prefer the non-vtec F22A engines because the heads flow a lot better. The F23 is good, when mated with one of our cam grinds, but for the ultimate in power, and reliability, the F22A1~6 is amazing!</TD></TR></TABLE>

whats up dude why no vtec.. my buddy had a 93 accord 2door coupe f23 vtec he had IHE had some ignition stuff on it, act clutch.. he was running wit gs-r's allday... so thats why i thought about it in a 95 hatch.. whats your opinion on the hole swap??

 

Listen to Bizi. Nobody in my opinion knows the F series better then him. The F22a will out flow any other F series head hands down.

 

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whats up dude why no vtec.. my buddy had a 93 accord 2door coupe f23 vtec he had IHE had some ignition stuff on it, act clutch.. he was running wit gs-r's allday... so thats why i thought about it in a 95 hatch.. whats your opinion on the hole swap??</TD></TR></TABLE>

My opinion:
F23 = OK
F22A = MUCH Better



The vtec assembly is also quite heavy, and valvetrain mass is the enemy of performance.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Turbowa &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

This is what I'm trying right now. I hope to have it done by spring time. I'm using TSX pistons in the F23 bottom but need to find some ARP rod bolts that will work. The head is the easy part. I will be getting Bizi cam, springs, retainer's, and teflon exhaust spacers. </TD></TR></TABLE>

when you find those rod bolts you make sure you let me know

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Bisimoto &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

My opinion:
F23 = OK
F22A = MUCH Better



The vtec assembly is also quite heavy, and valvetrain mass is the enemy of performance. </TD></TR></TABLE>

so basically your saying non vtec head but with cam profiles that or equal to or greater then a vtec cam, correct? makes sense

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by near495 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

whats up dude why no vtec.. my buddy had a 93 accord 2door coupe f23 vtec he had IHE had some ignition stuff on it, act clutch.. he was running wit gs-r's allday... so thats why i thought about it in a 95 hatch.. whats your opinion on the hole swap??</TD></TR></TABLE>Because the stock F22a (nonVtec) head will out flow a stock F23 (vtec) head by a lot and if ported with bigger valves the F22a head will out flow a ported H22 head.
F23 engine can be had for $350-500 shipped

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by efi2nr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Because the stock F22a (nonVtec) head will out flow a stock F23 (vtec) head by a lot and if ported with bigger valves the F22a head will out flow a ported H22 head.
F23 engine can be had for $350-500 shipped</TD></TR></TABLE>

thanks for the tips bro...

 

anyone got a link to the specs of the f series engines??

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 96 EX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">anyone got a link to the specs of the f series engines??</TD></TR></TABLE>

i like that...
K's are for rich kids that lack self esteem lol
D's are for the manliest of all manly with the most testosterone!!!
lol


Modified by near495 at 8:31 AM 11/28/2007

 

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This is what I'm trying right now. I hope to have it done by spring time. I'm using TSX pistons in the F23 bottom but need to find some ARP rod bolts that will work. The head is the easy part. I will be getting Bizi cam, springs, retainer's, and teflon exhaust spacers. </TD></TR></TABLE>

let me know when you figure out the rod bolt issue. I'm doing a similar setup. F22A6 with k20z1 pistons.

 

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i like that...
K's are for rich kids that lack self esteem lol
D's are for the manliest of all manly with the most testosterone!!!
lol


</TD></TR></TABLE>
HAHAAHAHAHA

 

the f23 has one of the longest strokes out of the h/f series. it also has 86mm sleeve's so you can use rsx pistons. also you can put a h head on their when you can afford it

 

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let me know when you figure out the rod bolt issue. I'm doing a similar setup. F22A6 with k20z1 pistons.</TD></TR></TABLE>

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when you find those rod bolts you make sure you let me know </TD></TR></TABLE>

Not a problem. As soon I I get time to measure the bolts and make some calls I can get back with you guy's.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by I smell secretions &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the f23 has one of the longest strokes out of the h/f series. it also has 86mm sleeve's so you can use rsx pistons. also you can put a h head on their when you can afford it</TD></TR></TABLE>

What is funny is if I use an H22 head, I'd go slower, and make less power than my F22A. lol.

 

I think that the H's are overrated. It must have something to do with the VTEC effect . That's OK with me cause as long as there are a bunch of kids looking to swap H's then the F's will stay cheap.

SOHC F's