I've got a '99 R6 & the speedometer doesn't work. When I bought it a little over a year ago it was fine, but the starter solinoid was messed up & the bike would constantly try to start itself. So I went to the dealer, bought a new noid, & installed it. Soon after I installed the new noid the speedometer stopped working. I have no idea where to look to fix the problem.

Also- The day after Thanksgiving last year I went down. I got my bike back from a friend a few months ago (he was storing it for me) & I noticed that the neutral light/switch doesn't work. If I put the bike into neutral & try to start it with the kickstand down it won't start, but if I pull up the kickstand it'll start right up. The light in the cluster doesn't work either.

I've looked on R6messagenet, but I just can't get any good information. I found a thread where the OP had the same problem, but one of the few "helpful" responses consisted of "You got fucked by the dealer."

 

ok, first.... if you like your bike and are planning on keeping it, invest in a service manual PLEASE!!! it will pay for itself the first time you use it instead of paying your dealer for service.
as for your current problem, check the wires plugging into the back of your speedo, also check wiring diagram to confirm which wire in speedo plug to check for batt. voltage to speedo.
if ya got power an no speedo function ya got a bad speedo....
neutral start and light fuction off 2 swtches... a tranny switch, most likely the problem here, and a clutch switch.
think my man, if ya pull in the clutch it doesnt make the light come on ok?
so, ya need to look at your neutral switch in your tranny. go back to messagenet " imma newbie member lol" and make use of thier diagrams to find location of switch.
it will either be unplugged"probably the case"
or you will have to replace it. check it with a VOM or jumper wires as a test to verify.
good luck hope this is helpful
keep er shiny side up and let er rip

 

Thanks a lot.

One of my friends is getting me a service manual on CD from school. He had gotten me one, but it was a general maintenance manual, so it wasn't very helpful.

I've looked over the bike trying to find any shorted or melted wires & haven't found any yet. It seems like the 99-02 R6s have some wiring issues with things shorting out.

I'm assuming that the speedo is getting power in the cluster because everything else works (temp & tach) but I'll check it anyway.

I want to find out if the bike has a reset switch when it goes down. It didn't go down nearly as hard as I did, but you never know.

 

the neut. light and starting are related in this case. find the problem that keeps your light from coming on and you will fix the starting problem by default.
sorry buddy but there is no
reset/"easy" button lol

 

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sorry buddy but there is no
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The reason I was thinking about a reset button was because I've heard that they put them on bikes so that when they go down they have to be reset by a dealer.

It's really odd. I have to put up the kickstand & find a certain spot when pulling in the clutch to get it to start.

My friend plans on getting the service manual when he goes back to school next week.

 

if youll give me a email add. ill try to email the manual to you if you cant get it off message net. im not puter smart enough to harm your puter so you ccan trust me

 

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It's really odd. I have to put up the kickstand & find a certain spot when pulling in the clutch to get it to start.

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no but im pretty sure bikes have a switch for when the bike is dropped to shut it off. sounds like that is malfunctioning.

 

its true guys there is a swtch for when you drop it.
the thing is called the bank angle sensor or tip over switch.
however, if it is activated bike doesnt start, and, shouldnt have anthing to do with neutral light.
if bikes not in neutral according to switch in tranny you have to have kickstand up and clutch in to start.
make the tranny switch think its in neutral and itll start with kickstand down....
the
STARTING CIRCUIT CUTOFF SYSTEM OPERATION
If the engine stop switch is set to “ ” and the
main switch is set to “ON” (both switches are
closed), the starter motor can only operate if at
least one of the following conditions is met:

The transmission is in neutral (the neutral
switch is closed).

The clutch lever is pulled to the handlebar (the
clutch switch is closed) and the sidestand is up
(the sidestand switch is closed).
The starting circuit cutoff relay prevents the
starter motor from operating when neither of
these conditions has been met. In this instance,
the starting circuit cutoff relay is open so current
cannot reach the starter motor. When at least
one of the above conditions has been met the
starting circuit cutoff relay is closed and the engine
can be started by pressing the start switch.
WHEN THE TRANSMISSION IS IN
NEUTRAL
WHEN THE SIDESTAND IS UP AND
THE CLUTCH LEVER IS PULLED TO
THE HANDLEBAR
1 Battery
2 Main fuse
3 Main switch
4 Ignition fuse
5 Engine stop switch
6 Starting circuit cutoff relay
7 Diode
8 Clutch switch
9 Sidestand switch
10 Neutral switch
11 Start switch
12 Starter relay
13 Starter motor
the above text is right out of the manual

 

EB802411

Check the main switch for continuity.
Refer to “CHECKING THE SWITCHES”.

Is the main switch OK?
YES
Replace the main
switch.
NO
8. Main switch
EB802412

Check the engine stop switch for continuity.
Refer to “CHECKING THE SWITCHES”.

Is the engine stop switch OK?
YES
Replace the right
handlebar switch.
NO
9. Engine stop switch
EB802413

Check the neutral switch for continuity.
Refer to “CHECKING THE SWITCHES”.

Is the neutral switch OK?
YES
Replace the neutral
switch.
NO
10. Neutral switch
EB802414

Check the sidestand switch for continuity.
Refer to “CHECKING THE SWITCHES”.

Is the sidestand switch OK?
YES
Replace the sidestand
switch.
NO
11. Sidestand switch
IGNITION SYSTEM ELEC
8-15
12. Starting circuit cutoff relay

Remove the relay unit from the wire harness.

Connect the pocket tester (W
1) to the relay
terminals as shown.

Check the starting circuit cutoff relay for continuity.
YES
Replace the starting
circuit cutoff relay.
NO
Tester positive probe

sky blue
Tester negative probe

blue/yellow
1
2
Tester positive probe

blue/yellow
Tester negative probe

sky blue
2
1
Continuity
No
continuity
NOTE:
When you switch the “–” and “” leads of the
digital pocket tester, the readings in the above
chart will be reversed.

Are the tester readings correct?
EB802416

Check the entire ignition system’s wiring.
Refer to “CIRCUIT DIAGRAM”.

Is the ignition system’s wiring properly connected
and without defects?
NO
Replace the ignitor
unit.
YES
13. Wiring
Properly connect or
repair the ignition
system’s wiring.
IGNITION SYSTEM ELEC
EB802415

 

4. Starting circuit cutoff relay

Disconnect the relay from the coupler.

Connect the pocket tester (W
1) and battery
(12 V) to the relay terminals as shown.
YES
Replace the starting
circuit cutoff relay
NO
Battery positive terminal
red/black
Battery negative terminal

black/yellow
1
2
Tester positive probe
blue/white
Tester negative probe
black
3
4

Does the starting circuit cutoff relay have
continuity between black and blue/white?
5. DIODE

Disconnect the relay from the coupler.

Connect the pocket tester (W
1) to the relay
terminals as shown.

Measure the starting circuit cutoff relay for
continuity as follows.
YES
Replace the starting
circuit cutoff relay
NO
Tester positive probe

sky blue
Tester negative probe

black/yellow
1
2
Tester positive probe

sky blue
Tester negative probe

blue/yellow
1
3
Continuity
NOTE:
When you switch the “–” and “” leads of the
digital pocket tester, the readings in the above
chart will be reversed.

Are the tester readings correct?
EB803403
Tester positive probe

black/yellow
Tester negative probe

sky blue
2
1
Tester positive probe

blue/yellow
Tester negative probe

sky blue
3
1
No
continuity
ELECTRIC STARTING SYSTEM ELEC
EB803402
8-20
ELECTRIC STARTING SYSTEM ELEC

Check the diode for continuty.

Disconnect the diode from the coupler.

Connect the pocket tester (W
1) to the diode
terminals as a shown.

Measur the diode for continuity as follows.
6. Starter relay

Disconnect the starter relay from the coupler.

Connect the pocket tester (W
1) and battery
(12 V) to the starter relay coupler as
shown.
YES
Replace the starter
relay.
NO
Battery positive terminal
red/white
Battery negative terminal

blue/white 2
EB802412

Check the engine stop switch for continuity.
Refer to “CHECKING THE SWITCHES”.

Is the engine stop switch OK?
YES
Replace the right
handlebar switch.
NO
8. Engine stop switch
EB802413

Check the neutral switch for continuity.
Refer to “CHECKING THE SWITCHES”.

Is the neutral switch OK?
YES
Replace the diode.
NO
9. Neutral switch
10. Diode
1
Tester positive probe
red
Tester negative probe
black
3
4

Does the starter relay have continuity between
red and black?
EB802411

Check the main switch for continuity.
Refer to “CHECKING THE SWITCHES”.

Is the main switch OK?
YES
Replace the main
switch.
NO
7. Main switch
YES NO
Tester positive probe

blue/yellow
Tester negative probe

blue/black
1
2
Tester positive probe

blue/black
Tester negative probe

blue/yellow
2
1
No
continuity
Continuity
Replace the neutral
switch.

Is the diode ok?
EB803404

 

6. Starter relay

Disconnect the starter relay from the coupler.

Connect the pocket tester (W
1) and battery
(12 V) to the starter relay coupler as
shown.
YES
Replace the starter
relay.
NO
Battery positive terminal
red/white
Battery negative terminal

blue/white 2
EB802412

Check the engine stop switch for continuity.
Refer to “CHECKING THE SWITCHES”.

Is the engine stop switch OK?
YES
Replace the right
handlebar switch.
NO
8. Engine stop switch
EB802413

Check the neutral switch for continuity.
Refer to “CHECKING THE SWITCHES”.

Is the neutral switch OK?
YES
Replace the diode.
NO
9. Neutral switch
10. Diode
1
Tester positive probe
red
Tester negative probe
black
3
4

Does the starter relay have continuity between
red and black?
EB802411

Check the main switch for continuity.
Refer to “CHECKING THE SWITCHES”.

Is the main switch OK?
YES
Replace the main
switch.
NO
7. Main switch
YES NO
Tester positive probe

blue/yellow
Tester negative probe

blue/black
1
2
Tester positive probe

blue/black
Tester negative probe

blue/yellow
2
1
No
continuity
Continuity
Replace the neutral
switch.

Is the diode ok?
EB803404
8-21
EB803408

Check the entire starting system’s wiring.
Refer to “CIRCUIT DIAGRAM”.

Is the starting system’s wiring properly connected
and without defects?
NO
The starting system
circuit is OK.
YES
14. Wiring

Check the start switch for continuity.
Refer to “CHECKING THE SWITCHES”.

Is the start switch OK?
YES
Replace the right
handlebar switch.
NO
13. Start switch
Properly connect or
repair the starting
system’s wiring.
EB803406

Check the sidestand switch for continuity.
Refer to “CHECKING THE SWITCHES”.

Is the sidestand switch OK?
YES
Replace the
sidestand switch.
NO
11. Sidestand switch
EB803405

Check the clutch switch for continuity.
Refer to “CHECKING THE SWITCHES”.

Is the clutch switch OK?
YES
Replace the clutch
switch.
NO
12. Clutch switch
ELECTRIC STARTING SYSTEM ELEC
EB8022414

 

im hoping maybe this will help?

 

Thanks again for the help.

I need to make a continuity tester & then I'll find out if the LED in the gauge cluster is good & then I'll test the neutral switch. I'm wondering if something got shorted when I switched out the ignition.

For the speedometer problem it pretty much says the problem is going to be the speed sensor.

I'm going to go through & test all of my switches. I think I might throw my old starter relay in to see if that has an effect on the bike. (Other than it trying to start itself. )

 

your trying to heal more than one thing at a time and they arent related.
neutral and start are a seperate issue from speedo.
btw if you end up replacing the speedo unit id like a chance to buy your old one for my 01 r6, im going to make it a track only bike and really only want the tach...speedo doesnt need to work and has to be taped off anyhow.
if it were me doing id look into the neutral/start thing first.
Im pretty confident you will find it has to do with the wire going to your neutral switch..... single wire i think....down by your countershaft sprocket.
im thinkin you have to pull that cover and you should see it.
if itys plugged in unplug it and note what if any change (shouldnt be any)
then ground it to frame or engine, this should turn the light on and allow bike to start with stand down.
good luck.

 

I have to work Fri-Sun so I'll give that a shot on Monday.

I also found a way to fix my upper fairing stay without having to drop $100+ on a new one.

 

i work fri sat but our shop is of course closed on mondays as most bike shops in this area are, ive got free long distance on my phone so if you get in a jam ill help ya thru it if you want, wont cost either of us anything but time.

 

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I appreciate it.

I plan on fixing the upper fairing mount & testing all of the switches tomorrow. I'm hoping to get it up & running before long.

 

i took pics of how i cheesed together my fairing mount onmy parts/ track bike. would post but i cant seem to get the whole pic thing figured out on here.....prolly mostly due to my stupidity of course sincenobody else seems o have a problem with it.
anyhow id share em if you like
basically added a 1/8 inchpplate connecting stay to frame.... took almost 15 minutes

 

That's exactly what I plan on doing.

I couldn't find the key to the shed so I couldn't get in to get anything done today, but I'm going to ask my dad to leave it for me so I can get some stuff done tomorrow.