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Old Jun 24, 2002 | 09:09 PM
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Default H22A1 dry sump questions

If you use one you know why. My questions are:

1. Which pump did you use, how many sections?
2. How did you connect it into the engine's oil system?
3. Did you make or adapt a sump?
4. What was used for a pulley?
5. What belt?

This isn't something I'm looking forward to ($$$$), but I'm seeing stories indicating that the stock pump will suck air under extreme cornering.

Is an Accusump a legitimate alternative or "not really."
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Old Jun 25, 2002 | 01:15 AM
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Default Re: H22A1 dry sump questions (kb58)

I dont have one but I do have some ideas.

I would use the stock pump for scavnging to the oil resivour(sp?). You can plug the block where the stock pump feeds the main oil gallery and removed the plug from the stock oil pump and put a fitting in its place. This may conflict with the alternator. You can feed it back into the same spot as the oil filter but that would make the whole system redundent. Usually you would feed oil to a couple small galleries seperately. There is one on the head near the center of the intake manifold. The only one I know of on the block is where the filter goes, the hole for the oil pressure idiot light sensor isnt big enough.

Why not spend the time and money in researching an oil pan and/or baffle, AND an accusump. I think that would be a legitimate alternative. It would be cheaper, easier, and it could happen a whole lot sooner. That with a oil pressure gauge and you should be good.
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Old Jun 25, 2002 | 09:42 AM
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Default Re: H22A1 dry sump questions (kinesistech)

We haven't done adry sump for a H22 but have done them for EW, D16, B16, and B18 engines both clockwise and counter clock rotation. Pan and pump brackets must be fabed along with a belt drive on the crank. Their are only 2 companys that make a good anti-clock rotation pump. E-mail if you are really serious, its about $1500.00 or so for a real system.
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Old Jun 25, 2002 | 12:49 PM
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$1500 is way too cheap for a dry sump. My friend just did a setup on his drag civic.

4 section pump $1100
custom fabricated oil pan $600
Pulley mount fab $200
Steel braided hose and fittings $500
Oil Tank $600
Breather tank $100



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Old Jun 25, 2002 | 02:25 PM
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Yikes.

I was thinking of getting a pump from Colman or Lefthander for about $800. Make the tanks and pan, adapt a pulley, and add $300 for hose and fittings.

(To those of you who don't know them, Colman and Lefthander sell to the circle track crowd. It's a much bigger customer base than us weenie autocrosser types, so compared to the usual places we shop, they have great prices.)
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Old Jun 25, 2002 | 03:11 PM
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If you fab the parts yourself, of course you will save money, but be damn sure you know what your doing. The design of the pan and the oil tank are very important.
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Old Jun 25, 2002 | 06:40 PM
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Colemn. Weaver.Razor,etc, all build clockwise rotation pumps (mount it backwards and drive it off the cam?) And yes we will build you a $3400.00 dry sump system like the guy above ,we call it JDM and paint it yellow . $1500.00 is the base for a 3 stage system, small rotor, for engines under 2.5 liters, but we could add a titanium tank, kevlar lines. magnesium fittings,5 stages to the pump,an unobtanium relief valve, call it JDM and get $9500.00 for it, but I have customers who have been doing this for awhile and know what they are worth.
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