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LIMP MODE FEECCKK!! CEL's #13 & #16 WTF to do now??

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Old Nov 19, 2007 | 07:49 PM
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Default LIMP MODE FEECCKK!! CEL's #13 & #16 WTF to do now??

EG, with B16A2, P30 (chipped) is in LIMP MODE and throwing #13 & #16. Trying to fix tonight. Any help would be appreciated guys. Major Noobage here so feel free to flame away
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Old Nov 19, 2007 | 09:23 PM
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Default Re: LIMP MODE FEECCKK!! CEL's #13 & #16 WTF to do now?? (turbogirl84)

13 BARO - atmospheric pressure sensor.
16 Fuel injectors. Thats about all I can tell you about it.
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Old Nov 19, 2007 | 09:31 PM
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Default Re: LIMP MODE FEECCKK!! CEL's #13 & #16 WTF to do now?? (ejoner)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ejoner &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">13 BARO - atmospheric pressure sensor.
16 Fuel injectors. Thats about all I can tell you about it.</TD></TR></TABLE>

that and i wouldnt drive ur car in limp mode....
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Old Nov 19, 2007 | 09:36 PM
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Default Re: LIMP MODE FEECCKK!! CEL's #13 & #16 WTF to do now?? (hitvtecgetloud09)

13 is bad as this is something that is built into the ecu. Try going back to the person that chipped that ecu and see what they say.
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Old Nov 19, 2007 | 10:04 PM
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Our Tuner (7+ years as Tuner doing atleast 4-5 Tunes a month for last 4) burnt the map, using uber. Their were NO codes being thrown prior to the re-burn. Since I woke up TunerJ before daybreak, he was still half coherent when he burned it. I am guessing he forgot to check a couple boxes. One being the injector test whatever, and the other being something else.. What you guys think??


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Old Nov 20, 2007 | 03:43 AM
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Doesnt matter how many years a tuner has tuned for, if an ecu wants to take a **** on you it will. So if you think the tuner did everything correct then its time for a new ecu if this code keeps coming back.
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Old Nov 20, 2007 | 05:09 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Luserkid &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Doesnt matter how many years a tuner has tuned for, if an ecu wants to take a **** on you it will. So if you think the tuner did everything correct then its time for a new ecu if this code keeps coming back. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Yup.

Baro code flow chart for a STOCK ECU is "replace ECU with known good working unit" so it's pretty cut and dry honestly.

For chipped ECU it could be the actual program itself, or the ECU itself took a **** and no amount of rechipping/reburning will help.

Side note:

Did you ever get your code 9 fixed also? Remember the other topic you posted about code 9?
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Old Nov 20, 2007 | 03:23 PM
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yes, code nine cleared by dizzy rebuild (internals swap)...

and now we are going to give the bin a look-see and most likely we just forgot about the two boxes you have to check for the JDM ecu's.

easy mistake i guess. hope that's what it is.
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Old Nov 20, 2007 | 03:27 PM
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lol i know a guy we call "limp-mode' cause he rolled his ef for like a year or two just cause he was to lazy to wire it up.
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Old Nov 20, 2007 | 03:35 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by turbogirl84 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yes, That is me in the avatar
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Sorry i cant help you but your cute *** ***! Can we date?
Take that **** back to your tuner !!!
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Old Nov 20, 2007 | 04:42 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by turbogirl84 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Our Tuner (7+ years as Tuner doing atleast 4-5 Tunes a month for last 4) burnt the map, using uber. Their were NO codes being thrown prior to the re-burn. Since I woke up TunerJ before daybreak, he was still half coherent when he burned it. I am guessing he forgot to check a couple boxes. One being the injector test whatever, and the other being something else.. What you guys think??


Modified by turbogirl84 at 2:29 AM 11/20/2007


Modified by turbogirl84 at 2:29 AM 11/20/2007</TD></TR></TABLE>

Atmospheric baro whatever is in JDM ECUs(or lack there of sorry i dont remember i got mine fixed 3 years ago when i had teh problem). I sent mine out to get it fixed by a ECU guy on here for 20 bucks. Its not biggie.

Fuel injectors well seems pretty cut and dry cept i have teh same freaking code and the injectors were pulled out of a working car!
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Old Nov 28, 2007 | 10:15 PM
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UPDATE!!!

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Old Nov 28, 2007 | 10:19 PM
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if you bring your car down to my chop i can fix it for you
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Old Nov 29, 2007 | 10:42 AM
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i had the same problem as stated...it was my ECU

I have a chipped JDM p28. I threw in a USDM P06 converted and no CELS.
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Old Nov 29, 2007 | 10:52 AM
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boro sensor - not present in JDM P30s
Injector test - not present in JDM P30s

disable both in UD and be done with it.
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Old Nov 29, 2007 | 11:01 AM
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i also had JDM p28 traction control cel
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Old Nov 29, 2007 | 11:09 AM
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your civic doesn't have TC???

was it a stock P28?
if it was what suffix? P28-061?

chipped ECUs will randomly show that CEL with older versions of Crome and UD. Rebuild the bin or update your vesion of Crome and rebuild and it should be gone.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Relic1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">your civic doesn't have TC???

was it a stock P28?
if it was what suffix? P28-061?

chipped ECUs will randomly show that CEL with older versions of Crome and UD. Rebuild the bin or update your vesion of Crome and rebuild and it should be gone.</TD></TR></TABLE>

P28-G01
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Old Dec 3, 2007 | 08:01 AM
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that would be why... some EDMs have TCS.
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Old Dec 3, 2007 | 09:17 AM
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so its a EDM ecu?

i knew it was a non USDM ECU i just hate it cause sometimes itll throw me a code sometimes it wont. dependant on base map.
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Old Dec 3, 2007 | 09:48 AM
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is it just a stock b16? just throw the stock ecu back on and see what happens.
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Old Dec 3, 2007 | 10:22 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by The Lobster &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so its a EDM ecu?

i knew it was a non USDM ECU i just hate it cause sometimes itll throw me a code sometimes it wont. dependant on base map.</TD></TR></TABLE>
yep, G=EDM.
is it surface mount parts (JDM P30) or through hole parts(USDM P28)?

If you can... take some high res pics of the insides of the ECU and either send them my way, or post them to PGMFI.org. I'd love to figure out what hardware differences there are in the TCS ECU. It may solve this little problem for everyone.
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Old Dec 3, 2007 | 12:33 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Relic1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
yep, G=EDM.
is it surface mount parts (JDM P30) or through hole parts(USDM P28)?

If you can... take some high res pics of the insides of the ECU and either send them my way, or post them to PGMFI.org. I'd love to figure out what hardware differences there are in the TCS ECU. It may solve this little problem for everyone.</TD></TR></TABLE>

this is all i have as of right now since my mom has my camera. YOu can see the missing baro thing where the chip is.

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Old Dec 3, 2007 | 02:24 PM
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nice DIN plug setup. I've used a few of those myself, durable and easy.

JDM ECUs never had boro sesors.
EDM ECUs, some do some don't. Depends on which market they went into.

the MCU sticker... lol
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Relic1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">nice DIN plug setup. I've used a few of those myself, durable and easy.

JDM ECUs never had boro sesors.
EDM ECUs, some do some don't. Depends on which market they went into.

the MCU sticker... lol</TD></TR></TABLE>

ha thx. ya i love the DIN set up i dont really ever see anyone ever use them...in fact just about never.

ill get pics later this week.
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