Top Gear Honda Civic Type R
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Re: Top Gear Honda Civic Type R (Caveman74)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Caveman74 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Unimpressed 
That understear sucks</TD></TR></TABLE>
whatever man, that thing is way better than what we have here.
That understear sucks</TD></TR></TABLE>whatever man, that thing is way better than what we have here.
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Re: Top Gear Honda Civic Type R (thehatchninja)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by thehatchninja »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
whatever man, that thing is way better than what we have here.</TD></TR></TABLE>
It's uglier, .1 seconds faster in 0-60, alot more expensive than an Si, and only has ONE more HP. How is it "way better" than an original Si?
The JDM is way better........not the UK
whatever man, that thing is way better than what we have here.</TD></TR></TABLE>
It's uglier, .1 seconds faster in 0-60, alot more expensive than an Si, and only has ONE more HP. How is it "way better" than an original Si?
The JDM is way better........not the UK
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Re: Top Gear Honda Civic Type R (thehatchninja)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by thehatchninja »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
whatever man, that thing is way better than what we have here.</TD></TR></TABLE>
your joking right.
whatever man, that thing is way better than what we have here.</TD></TR></TABLE>
your joking right.
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Re: Top Gear Honda Civic Type R (thehatchninja)
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whatever man, that thing is way better than what we have here.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Maybe interior wise
whatever man, that thing is way better than what we have here.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Maybe interior wise
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Re: Top Gear Honda Civic Type R (Caveman74)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Caveman74 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">That understear sucks</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yep. That car isn't exactly equipped for that track, though... at least not at those speeds. Some better aero, stiffer suspension, stabilizer, and a negative camber could fix that. It needs to be lowered 1", too.
Yep. That car isn't exactly equipped for that track, though... at least not at those speeds. Some better aero, stiffer suspension, stabilizer, and a negative camber could fix that. It needs to be lowered 1", too.
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Re: Top Gear Honda Civic Type R (GALACTUS)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GALACTUS »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Yep. That car isn't exactly equipped for that track, though... at least not at those speeds. Some better aero, stiffer suspension, stabilizer, and a negative camber could fix that. It needs to be lowered 1", too.</TD></TR></TABLE>
how many track cars have you tuned or setup?
Yep. That car isn't exactly equipped for that track, though... at least not at those speeds. Some better aero, stiffer suspension, stabilizer, and a negative camber could fix that. It needs to be lowered 1", too.</TD></TR></TABLE>
how many track cars have you tuned or setup?
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Re: Top Gear Honda Civic Type R (exhaust_note)
Let me guess... This is your attempt to discredit the "n00b" and save some forum face, right? Well, let me do you a favor... None. Happy? LOL. If you find an error in my post, please don't hesitate to correct me, and maybe I can learn something in the process. 
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Re: Top Gear Honda Civic Type R (GALACTUS)
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Some better aero.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I guess that wing is causing understeer. Maybe it needs an invader body kit.
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stiffer suspension.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Jeremy already talked about it being retarded stiff. Stiff suspension does not always equal grip.
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a negative camber could fix that. It needs to be lowered 1", too.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Less contact patch helps understeer??? And why should we lower a car that's supposed to be track ready out of the box
Some better aero.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I guess that wing is causing understeer. Maybe it needs an invader body kit.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GALACTUS »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
stiffer suspension.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Jeremy already talked about it being retarded stiff. Stiff suspension does not always equal grip.
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a negative camber could fix that. It needs to be lowered 1", too.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Less contact patch helps understeer??? And why should we lower a car that's supposed to be track ready out of the box
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Re: Top Gear Honda Civic Type R (exhaust_note)
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I guess that wing is causing understeer.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I never stated the spoiler was the cause of the understeer, but good aero isn't always achieved with a spoiler alone.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Jeremy already talked about it being retarded stiff. Stiff suspension does not always equal grip.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Maybe you can explain to me why the car with the "retarded stiff" suspension is experiencing such a high body lean around those corners?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Less contact patch helps understeer???</TD></TR></TABLE>
When cornering, the weight of the car is distributed to the outside wheels; angular velocity exceeding linear momentum causing "understeer"; at high speeds, a negative camber angle would increase tire contact when cornering.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">And why should we lower a car that's supposed to be track ready out of the box </TD></TR></TABLE>
No car is "ready" for every "track" "out of the box". Lowering the ride height would reduce lift and increase downforce, allowing for an increase of traction for the front wheels and improving understeer.
I guess that wing is causing understeer.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I never stated the spoiler was the cause of the understeer, but good aero isn't always achieved with a spoiler alone.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Jeremy already talked about it being retarded stiff. Stiff suspension does not always equal grip.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Maybe you can explain to me why the car with the "retarded stiff" suspension is experiencing such a high body lean around those corners?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Less contact patch helps understeer???</TD></TR></TABLE>
When cornering, the weight of the car is distributed to the outside wheels; angular velocity exceeding linear momentum causing "understeer"; at high speeds, a negative camber angle would increase tire contact when cornering.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">And why should we lower a car that's supposed to be track ready out of the box </TD></TR></TABLE>
No car is "ready" for every "track" "out of the box". Lowering the ride height would reduce lift and increase downforce, allowing for an increase of traction for the front wheels and improving understeer.
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Re: Top Gear Honda Civic Type R (GALACTUS)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GALACTUS »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I never stated the spoiler was the cause of the understeer, but good aero isn't always achieved with a spoiler alone.
Maybe you can explain to me why the car with the "retarded stiff" suspension is experiencing such a high body lean around those corners?
When cornering, the weight of the car is distributed to the outside wheels; angular velocity exceeding linear momentum causing "understeer"; at high speeds, a negative camber angle would increase tire contact when cornering.
No car is "ready" for every "track" "out of the box". Lowering the ride height would reduce lift and increase downforce, allowing for an increase of traction for the front wheels and improving understeer.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Nice fancy words. How come you weren't on the Honda UK design team?
Stock Si doesnt have stiff a super suspension. Yet it handles like a dream. You shouldn't have to modify a car with the R badge to get it to handle.
Car for car. USDM Si vs. UK CTR. I bet the Si takes it.
I never stated the spoiler was the cause of the understeer, but good aero isn't always achieved with a spoiler alone.
Maybe you can explain to me why the car with the "retarded stiff" suspension is experiencing such a high body lean around those corners?
When cornering, the weight of the car is distributed to the outside wheels; angular velocity exceeding linear momentum causing "understeer"; at high speeds, a negative camber angle would increase tire contact when cornering.
No car is "ready" for every "track" "out of the box". Lowering the ride height would reduce lift and increase downforce, allowing for an increase of traction for the front wheels and improving understeer.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Nice fancy words. How come you weren't on the Honda UK design team?
Stock Si doesnt have stiff a super suspension. Yet it handles like a dream. You shouldn't have to modify a car with the R badge to get it to handle.
Car for car. USDM Si vs. UK CTR. I bet the Si takes it.
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Re: Top Gear Honda Civic Type R (trev0006)
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That guy drives me up the freaking wall.
That same EP3 CTR that he acted like he loved in the comparison with the FN2 CTR is the <u>same</u> car that he was <u>bashing</u> last year!
In a comparison with other hot hatches a year or two ago, he picked the VW over other other cars. When a reporter asked him why he did that when the EP3 CTR was faster, quicker, cheaper to buy and cheaper to insure, and more econimical to boot...he said that he wasn't picking the EP3 CTR because it was a Honda.
The guy just doesn't "get" Honda, and he never has.
So I am not sure I care at all what the guy has to say about one CTR vs another CTR!
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Caveman74 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Unimpressed That understear sucks</TD></TR></TABLE>
Just for the record, the FN2 needs a different kind of corner entry. The EP3 is more "fun" to him because the EP3's limits are lower and so the car's more dramatic to drive.
That guy drives me up the freaking wall.
That same EP3 CTR that he acted like he loved in the comparison with the FN2 CTR is the <u>same</u> car that he was <u>bashing</u> last year!
In a comparison with other hot hatches a year or two ago, he picked the VW over other other cars. When a reporter asked him why he did that when the EP3 CTR was faster, quicker, cheaper to buy and cheaper to insure, and more econimical to boot...he said that he wasn't picking the EP3 CTR because it was a Honda.
The guy just doesn't "get" Honda, and he never has.
So I am not sure I care at all what the guy has to say about one CTR vs another CTR!
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Caveman74 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Unimpressed
That understear sucks</TD></TR></TABLE>Just for the record, the FN2 needs a different kind of corner entry. The EP3 is more "fun" to him because the EP3's limits are lower and so the car's more dramatic to drive.
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Re: Top Gear Honda Civic Type R (exhaust_note)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by exhaust_note »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Nice fancy words. How come you weren't on the Honda UK design team?
Stock Si doesnt have stiff a super suspension. Yet it handles like a dream. You shouldn't have to modify a car with the R badge to get it to handle.
Car for car. USDM Si vs. UK CTR. I bet the Si takes it.</TD></TR></TABLE>
nice rebulttle...
Stock Si doesnt have stiff a super suspension. Yet it handles like a dream. You shouldn't have to modify a car with the R badge to get it to handle.
Car for car. USDM Si vs. UK CTR. I bet the Si takes it.</TD></TR></TABLE>
nice rebulttle...
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