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need help!!!!! with bleeding the clutch

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Old Nov 17, 2007 | 04:01 PM
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just did a motor swap and I have to bleed the clutch. Well when we do it, the brake fluid isn’t going thru the reservoir tank and thru the hose. we did the whole thing with the little clutch pump thing in the front of the motor(cant think of the name right now) but its still not going thru. What the hell could it be? And advice in greatly appreciated.
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Old Nov 17, 2007 | 04:07 PM
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Are you pumping with the actual clutch pedal?
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Old Nov 17, 2007 | 04:16 PM
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yea. thats what they said to do. could it be the little piston pump thing in the cylinder
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Old Nov 17, 2007 | 04:19 PM
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Are you pumping the pedal a few times, then having someone unscrew the bleeder screw on the slave cylinder? then repeating until all the air is out of the line?

Just pumping the pedal alone wont do it
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Old Nov 17, 2007 | 04:21 PM
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im pretty sure thats what we are doing. my buddy will unscrew it then i will pump. we even pinched the hose until no more air bubbles came out.
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Old Nov 17, 2007 | 04:23 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JDMHondaEJ8 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">im pretty sure thats what we are doing. my buddy will unscrew it then i will pump. we even pinched the hose until no more air bubbles came out. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Any no fluid is coming out of the bleeder valve? Try pumping with the valve closed, then push down and hold while you open the valve.
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Old Nov 17, 2007 | 04:23 PM
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make sure you put a hose on the end of the valve and put the other end of the hose in brake fluid
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Old Nov 17, 2007 | 04:27 PM
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we tried that too. and still nothing. i mean, we hear something going on in the master cylinder. you think i need i new master cylinder. i dont wanna annoy you with these questions. this is a first for me
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Old Nov 17, 2007 | 04:34 PM
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i think i understand that. so the the little tank that you use to plug into tha slave cylinder when you pump should be in brake fluid so i can suck it from the bottom as well
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Old Nov 17, 2007 | 04:44 PM
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Old Nov 17, 2007 | 05:07 PM
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I wont be so vague... this is how i do it

I make it a 2 person job.
One at the slave cylinder, one inside the car to pump
With the bleeder screw fully screwed in and tight. The person inside pumps 3-4 times then holds it, #2 person unscrews the bleeder screw about 1 or more full rotations. Clutch pedal should go to the floor.
Then tighten up the bleeder and repeat until ALL air is out of the line.

Keep a close eye on the fluid level in the res
Because if you run out, you'll be pushing air into the line, which is exactly what you're tryin NOT to do.

Some people will put a hose on the nipple of the bleeder screw to have the fluid collect into bottle.

If you leave the bleeder open while you pump, you can trap air in the middle of the line. Which is no good.
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Old Nov 17, 2007 | 05:07 PM
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no thats so that it doesnt suck air back in
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Old Nov 17, 2007 | 05:19 PM
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thank you everyone for the advice. it really helped alot. i owe you all who helped me out
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Old Nov 17, 2007 | 05:22 PM
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True

Ive always found the pump and hold method alot more effective
Usualy done within 3-4 cycles
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Old Jan 1, 2008 | 08:44 AM
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this works well thank u
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Old Jan 1, 2008 | 08:56 AM
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did u get it?
i had to do mine with a mity-vac hand pump on the bleeder valve. works like a champ.
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Old Jan 1, 2008 | 09:11 AM
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Just make sure after pumping the clutch you hold the pedal down! one time me and my buddy forgot that lol..
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Old Jan 1, 2008 | 09:17 AM
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i''ve had it where it wouldn't hold pressure AT ALL. like pedal on the floor. was the master cylinder but yea, many proven ways have been listed. do hondas have a dampner in the stock lines?
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Old May 2, 2008 | 05:29 AM
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a "brake bleeder kit" will help if you want it. It's basically a tube connected to a small can that holds the fluid and makes sure it doesn't suck anything back in. I got mine at oriellys or advanced.

http://www.fixthisride.com/sho...97960

And yes, be sure to keep the resevour full or you'll be back to square 1.

This can take a while, but my methods sounds like it was a bit off (we'd open the bleeder and slowly push the clutch down at the same time, then close the bleeder as soon as it got to the floor). Anyway, last time it took me 15 minutes or so of this before the clutch felt right.
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