'Official' Poormans R Setups
Seems to be more than enough info on Ls/Vtec B20/Vtec, etc. etc. but haven't seen this setup thread started. Just wanted to see the usual of what you guys built or are building and any power numbers from this setup....mine is the following (being built this winter on a low budget)
JDM SI Head
USDM GSR Block
Chipped p28
PCT pistons (stock bore)
OEM bearings set
ARP 9mm rod bolts
ARP Headstuds
Skunk2 Tuner 2's (Springs and retainers also)
Skunk2 Intake Manifold
Skunk 2 TB
AEM V2 Cold Air
MB Racing's new TDM Race Header (4-2-1)
*hoping to make 200whp on a solid tune, low budget, can't wait to see what happens
JDM SI Head
USDM GSR Block
Chipped p28
PCT pistons (stock bore)
OEM bearings set
ARP 9mm rod bolts
ARP Headstuds
Skunk2 Tuner 2's (Springs and retainers also)
Skunk2 Intake Manifold
Skunk 2 TB
AEM V2 Cold Air
MB Racing's new TDM Race Header (4-2-1)
*hoping to make 200whp on a solid tune, low budget, can't wait to see what happens
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Natural Aspirations »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Going a little compression crazy aren't we?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yeap, it definitely seems so.
My crappymans set-up consists of the following
RS machine ITR pistons
hastings rings
GSR block
GSR crank
GSR bearings
GSR timing belt
honda oil pump
honda water pump
honda head gasket
honda rear main seal
ARP rod bolts (re-sized)
ARP head bolts
P30 mainfold
99 si head (stock)
Blox A's camshaft
4-2-1 header
3" exhaust
3" OD intake
blah,blah...
Basically, I had a JDM b16a and replaced the block with a re-built GSR block.
I have not tuned it yet but maybe before Xmas, I'll visit my friends at Mcnews.
Yeap, it definitely seems so.
My crappymans set-up consists of the following
RS machine ITR pistons
hastings rings
GSR block
GSR crank
GSR bearings
GSR timing belt
honda oil pump
honda water pump
honda head gasket
honda rear main seal
ARP rod bolts (re-sized)
ARP head bolts
P30 mainfold
99 si head (stock)
Blox A's camshaft
4-2-1 header
3" exhaust
3" OD intake
blah,blah...
Basically, I had a JDM b16a and replaced the block with a re-built GSR block.
I have not tuned it yet but maybe before Xmas, I'll visit my friends at Mcnews.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Natural Aspirations »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Going a little compression crazy aren't we?</TD></TR></TABLE>
what's compression on a b18c block with b16 head and pct pistons anyways?
EDIT: nm i found it..it's 12.5:1
what's compression on a b18c block with b16 head and pct pistons anyways?
EDIT: nm i found it..it's 12.5:1
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Evil Ryu »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">EDIT: nm i found it..it's 12.5:1</TD></TR></TABLE>
And then some...
And then some...
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And then some...</TD></TR></TABLE>
yea i was about to say it puts it closer to to 13.x:1
And then some...</TD></TR></TABLE>
yea i was about to say it puts it closer to to 13.x:1
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by st9vex »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yeh I think to break it in i'll be running a pump/race mix for the first 1,000 </TD></TR></TABLE>
Yeah..., and exactly what is that going to do for you?
If you have the pistons sell them, if you don't find something else to use. This is not the first time this has been covered. WHY do you want to run CTR pistins?
Yeah..., and exactly what is that going to do for you?
If you have the pistons sell them, if you don't find something else to use. This is not the first time this has been covered. WHY do you want to run CTR pistins?
cause there bad pistons and have a horrible flame travel and not to mention they have a huge dome which will interfere with ur valves etc. etc. if u didnt put them in yet then sell them and get some p30's. plus if ur gonna drive it on the street u dont want to be running a mixed fuel setup. it gets expensive.
aww, i was hoping to see a "real" official poormans that included itr pistions, rods, and crank in a gsr block with a b16 head.
i guess mar778c was close enough
i guess mar778c was close enough
this is kinda close to a poor mans type r
jdm b18c
port flow head type r inner and port flow outer valve springs
spoon thin HG
cheap SRI
dc 4-1 header
blox C cams
AEM fuel rail,FPR
skunk2 intake manifold
with crome
188whp 124 tq
jdm b18c
port flow head type r inner and port flow outer valve springs
spoon thin HG
cheap SRI
dc 4-1 header
blox C cams
AEM fuel rail,FPR
skunk2 intake manifold
with crome
188whp 124 tq
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by cartune network »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">cause there bad pistons and have a horrible flame travel and not to mention they have a huge dome which will interfere with ur valves etc. etc. if u didnt put them in yet then sell them and get some p30's. plus if ur gonna drive it on the street u dont want to be running a mixed fuel setup. it gets expensive. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Wordup. Gsr block w/CTR pistons, b16 head, slapped together budget setup that runs 93 octane pump daily. Goes around roadcourses for hpde and drags the 1320 in 12.1@114 mph in a 2100pd. streetcar.

Wordup. Gsr block w/CTR pistons, b16 head, slapped together budget setup that runs 93 octane pump daily. Goes around roadcourses for hpde and drags the 1320 in 12.1@114 mph in a 2100pd. streetcar.
all oem
PnP b16 head
itr V/T
itr cams
gsr block
gsr crank
gsr rods
and just to **** some ppl off, i had itr pistons, but i ditched em for.....................................PCT's and i couldnt be happier...although they did run like absolute **** before the tune..the difference was night and day..but i love em
PnP b16 head
itr V/T
itr cams
gsr block
gsr crank
gsr rods
and just to **** some ppl off, i had itr pistons, but i ditched em for.....................................PCT's and i couldnt be happier...although they did run like absolute **** before the tune..the difference was night and day..but i love em
i had pct's in a c5 bottom end with a pr3 head and had no issues with them at all on 93 octane, many people run them and hit 200+whp
although im sure the p30's are a better choice, the pct is not as bad you make it sound especially with e-85 nowadays
although im sure the p30's are a better choice, the pct is not as bad you make it sound especially with e-85 nowadays
im not saying they are horrible...i love them..its just they run like crap before a tune. i mean they yielded me somewhere between 12-1 to 12-5 comp. which is kinda high especially for an untuned motor on street gas..(93 octane).
ok i know this thread is old but i havent seen a recent 1 so im gonna bump it with my setup:
B18c1 block
Pr3 pistons
Gsr Rods & Knifedged crank
Complete balanced rotating assembly
Arp everything (rods mains headstuds flywheel clutch)
Act 9lb flywheel
Act 6puck clutch
Moroso Oil pan
B16 head Ported & polished
Blox Dual valvesprings
Type R cams
Blox IM
Skunk 2 70mm throttle body (or 68mm blox tb)
Aem Fuel Rail
Rc310s
chipped p28 w/ S200
B18c1 block
Pr3 pistons
Gsr Rods & Knifedged crank
Complete balanced rotating assembly
Arp everything (rods mains headstuds flywheel clutch)
Act 9lb flywheel
Act 6puck clutch
Moroso Oil pan
B16 head Ported & polished
Blox Dual valvesprings
Type R cams
Blox IM
Skunk 2 70mm throttle body (or 68mm blox tb)
Aem Fuel Rail
Rc310s
chipped p28 w/ S200
Seems to be more than enough info on Ls/Vtec B20/Vtec, etc. etc. but haven't seen this setup thread started. Just wanted to see the usual of what you guys built or are building and any power numbers from this setup....mine is the following (being built this winter on a low budget)
JDM SI Head
USDM GSR Block
Chipped p28
PCT pistons (stock bore)
OEM bearings set
ARP 9mm rod bolts
ARP Headstuds
Skunk2 Tuner 2's (Springs and retainers also)
Skunk2 Intake Manifold
Skunk 2 TB
AEM V2 Cold Air
MB Racing's new TDM Race Header (4-2-1)
*hoping to make 200whp on a solid tune, low budget, can't wait to see what happens
JDM SI Head
USDM GSR Block
Chipped p28
PCT pistons (stock bore)
OEM bearings set
ARP 9mm rod bolts
ARP Headstuds
Skunk2 Tuner 2's (Springs and retainers also)
Skunk2 Intake Manifold
Skunk 2 TB
AEM V2 Cold Air
MB Racing's new TDM Race Header (4-2-1)
*hoping to make 200whp on a solid tune, low budget, can't wait to see what happens
pro 1 series cams
pro series cam gears
s2 titanium springs and retainers
ctr tb
why doesnt anyone ever go with JDM ITR pistons it has higher compression ratio and sits farther up in the block? because heres my build idea
GSR Block
GSR Rods
GSR Crank
82mm JDM ITR Pistons
ARP Rod/Head Hardware
Endyn DHPS head (i hope if i get enough money)
with some Bisimoto Stage 2 cams or maybe just if i don't have money ITR cams for awhile haha i'm hopeing for 200whp
GSR Block
GSR Rods
GSR Crank
82mm JDM ITR Pistons
ARP Rod/Head Hardware
Endyn DHPS head (i hope if i get enough money)
with some Bisimoto Stage 2 cams or maybe just if i don't have money ITR cams for awhile haha i'm hopeing for 200whp
00 GSR bottom
CP ITR pistons & Rings
Eagle rods
Acl Bearings
ARP head , rod, main bolts
Endyne oil block offs
Stock Crank polished
OEM oil and water pump
oem head gasket and timming belt
00 GSR head
supertech flat faced valves
Skunk2 valve springs and ti retainers
skunk2 pro stage 2's
AEM cam gears
AEM rail and riser
rc 310's
Hondata s300 (no tune yet)
no dyno numbers yet
pump 93
CP ITR pistons & Rings
Eagle rods
Acl Bearings
ARP head , rod, main bolts
Endyne oil block offs
Stock Crank polished
OEM oil and water pump
oem head gasket and timming belt
00 GSR head
supertech flat faced valves
Skunk2 valve springs and ti retainers
skunk2 pro stage 2's
AEM cam gears
AEM rail and riser
rc 310's
Hondata s300 (no tune yet)
no dyno numbers yet
pump 93
Last edited by 3rdman; Jul 29, 2009 at 01:00 PM. Reason: left something out
JDM GSR B18C - stock rods & pistons
B16A2 head - PnP from Blueprint Racing
OEM head gasket & belt
ARP head studs
Stock injectors (still flowing like a mfer)
Supertech flat faced valves, springs, retainers
Skunk 2 Pro 1 cams
Skunk 2 cam gears
ITR manifold ported to 68mm
Professional Products 68mm TB
Hand made fiberglass intake (looking to get an AEM CAI)
Hytech Replica Header (gay I know)
Apexi 2.5" NOIR exhaust (no cat)
Hondata S300 tuned on 100 octane
187hp @ 125tq on a Mustang Dyno so it's likely close to 200 on dynojet I like to hope
Redline @ 8300
B16A2 head - PnP from Blueprint Racing
OEM head gasket & belt
ARP head studs
Stock injectors (still flowing like a mfer)
Supertech flat faced valves, springs, retainers
Skunk 2 Pro 1 cams
Skunk 2 cam gears
ITR manifold ported to 68mm
Professional Products 68mm TB
Hand made fiberglass intake (looking to get an AEM CAI)
Hytech Replica Header (gay I know)
Apexi 2.5" NOIR exhaust (no cat)
Hondata S300 tuned on 100 octane
187hp @ 125tq on a Mustang Dyno so it's likely close to 200 on dynojet I like to hope
Redline @ 8300
Last edited by VegasHB; Jul 29, 2009 at 01:50 PM.




