What do you guys think? I'm sure they help somewhat but are they worth the hassle?

 

Define noticeable....
noticeable;(adjective)capable of being detected

I would say no. Unless you are drving to the limit or near there on a track.

On the street I'd rock oem rubber bushings.

 

If the OEM stuff on the car is worn out...then yes, replaceing them with any new set of bushings will make a big difference....

otherwise:

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noticeable;(adjective)capable of being detected

I would say no. Unless you are drving to the limit or near there on a track.

On the street I'd rock oem rubber bushings.
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Isn't it safe to assume that a 1991 car will have bushings that are worn out to begin with at this point in time?

 

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Not really. The 91 that only had 27000miles on it probably doesn't need bushing. Your 130XXXmiles one probably does tho lol.

Don't ever bother buying the OEM stuff. It's price is so high you might aswell jump for the kit and pick up the missing bushings from the kit off Honda (rear trailing arm bushings for one).

Yes, it really does make a difference not just in handling but in overall ride features. The handling in everyday became stiffer and more responsive, which is what I like even in grandma daily driving.

At the price the kits are, it's not a bad idea to go ahead and do them. Just a PITA to install if your ***** rusty.

 

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In most cases yes, however the previous owner of my '88 CRX had replaced some or all of the bushings. We need to know more about the history of this car to make that assumption.

 

i had a buddy install the entire bushing set onto his car.

i am sold! his OEM bushings were about 6 months old too.

 

I just bought my 91 HF with 192XXX miles on it. I can't believe how clean it is. It's compeltely bone stock. It even had the original dealership papers from 1991 AND the CRX manual in the glove box. That tells you a lot about how this car was taken care of. It was mostly driven by a lady. (Yes, in this case, it really was a lady). Clean title. No accidents.

The body is nearly perfect. The mechanics at the shop noticed how clean everything was both internally and externally. I paid $2300. But it was worth it for me because i really wanted to get a really CLEAN stock one so i can modify it slowly.

The seats had ZERO rips and looks mint condition. And the only flaw in the interior is a slight nick on the driver side door. Other than that, no rips on the doors, plastics, or seats which is truly a rarity.

But with 192XXX miles, i'm guessing the bushings aren't that good.

 

i miss my rubber bushings

 

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How come? Im about to switch from stock to the energy kit......

 

FWIW I've heard rumors of the trailing arm bushings limiting travel when done in urethane, however I have not confirmed.

 

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Not really, it willl make the ride a little harder, but what wil really change things up, (and in my book, a bad way) is using spherical rod ends for the trailing arm bushings or anywhere else, unless the car is track only.

 

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Not really, it willl make the ride a little harder, but what wil really change things up, (and in my book, a bad way) is using spherical rod ends for the trailing arm bushings or anywhere else, unless the car is track only.</TD></TR></TABLE>

My mistake, I typed the wrong thing. What I meant to say was they are rumored to limit the toe change through travel. The idea is that since the trailing arm pivots about the bushing, the urethane ones limit this travel. Again this is all hear say.

 

Not on my CRX, but had the complete poly kit on my Prelude done. I would think the change would be comparable.

In the end, i kind of regretted it. To harsh of a ride. But, for getting the "feel" of the road, and the grip of you wheels, it was a great addition.

As far as the RTA bushing go, i would have to say either stock or the new spherical ones out now. You still retain the two axis of motion, just more controlled. The poly ES bushings don't allow for certain travel and can produce snap oversteer. But don't listen to me. Here's a good thread i read a while back.

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=493789

 

yeah noticeably bad change. for the street use replacement stock. for the track use spherical. you shouldnt use poly bushings in any application that requires movement in more then one axis.

-M@

 

The ride is that much harsher than stock?

And my CRX isn't my daily driver so i can afford the harsher ride but i dont want to install them if the ride is THAT much harsher. I'm not going to autocross. Just maybe take my car up the mountains and play around a bit.

 

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thats half the reason i miss my rubber bushings. trust me, a car can be more then capable at turning in on the street with rubber bushings. the "slop" or slack that people refer to is usually just worn bushings. plus urethane squeaks and it also doesn't have any rotational give. If you want to go fast get spherical bushings, no binding, no resistance to movement in comparison and they dont move a bit. if you want to drive your car on the street, just get new oem bushings, no reason for polyurethane.


...IMO. If your set on poly then go for it.

 

i replaced all of the bushings on my crx with energy suspension ones. from my expierence i would change all except the rear trailing arms. When cornering and hitting bumps it feels like im going to get slingshotted off the road thats probably why the trailing arm bushings arent included in the kit. They are ment for straight line drag racing not cornering