Rumors are flying that they want to do side by side racing by combining Awd, rwd with fwd? some of these guys are in the 8's. That is way no fair for the guys in the mid 10 to upper 10's So whats the cutoff gonna be next year? 16th qualifier is a 10.0.
What are your guys take in this? Remember its just a rumor from a good source but hopfully its not true.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Antilag &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Rumors are flying that they want to do side by side racing by combinig Awd, rwd with fwd? some of these guys are in the 8's. That is way no fair for the guys in the mid 10 to upper 10's So whats the cutoff gonna be next year? 16th qualifier is a 10.0.
What are your guys take in this? Remember its just a rumor from a good source but hopfully its not true.</TD></TR></TABLE>

 

As you say "Rumors are flying".........

The class will only combine 4 cyl Fwd/Awd/Rwd cars.

The Supras will be in the Unlimited class......

It is still early in the equation, give us a chance to get the rules done before you start speculating that you can't keep up.......

 

Jesus, we just need to shut the drag forum down for a few weeks until things are actually decided. Everybody just relax and wait, start your bitching after the rules and schedule are out....

 

i heard that if you qualify between the #8 and #12 spots in the new class you have to run first round with no pants on and if you win that round you have to run the next round with no shirt on and if you win that round you are automatically entered into the bikini contest

...everyone just needs to calm down and wait for the schedule and rules to be released, take the next 2 weeks off honda-tech, have some turkey with your family, drink some beers....

 

Turbo Street ran this way last year (and Turbo 4 was this way for a long time). Some how it works. We did have an old school Evo (Reichen) run a 8.9 at one event, but for the most part the times were pretty even and some of the racing was great. If they are going to adopt sfwd rules, something may have to be done to the AWD and RWD cars, as mazworx has gone 9.0 and I'm sure the PRL car won't be far behind. If the bump is 10.0, step it up or run brackets...I used to not qualify, it sucks, but there are always brackets!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Innes &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i heard that if you qualify between the #8 and #12 spots in the new class you have to run first round with no pants on and if you win that round you have to run the next round with no shirt on and if you win that round you are automatically entered into the bikini contest</TD></TR></TABLE>

true story. i was there when he heard it.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Innes &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i heard that if you qualify between the #8 and #12 spots in the new class you have to run first round with no pants on and if you win that round you have to run the next round with no shirt on and if you win that round you are automatically entered into the bikini contest</TD></TR></TABLE>
lmao

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Innes &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i heard that if you qualify between the #8 and #12 spots in the new class you have to run first round with no pants on and if you win that round you have to run the next round with no shirt on and if you win that round you are automatically entered into the bikini contest</TD></TR></TABLE>


****, you will end up winning more money if thats the case

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Innes &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i heard that if you qualify between the #8 and #12 spots in the new class you have to run first round with no pants on and if you win that round you have to run the next round with no shirt on and if you win that round you are automatically entered into the bikini contest</TD></TR></TABLE>

Strip Drag Racing? hmm Maybe it'll get more women spectators out to the track. Sounds like it fits the marketing model of NOPI (OK OK I kid I kid!! )

 

while we are at it lets put top fuel and pro stock bike in the same class. That will bring in more racers

 

Im all for the combining of the awd/fwd/rwd cars, but maybe its because I drive a rwd?

I think just as brian said the racing was soooooo close last year in turbo street they would be crazy not to. I mean your gonna have your cars that are going to go out and make an amazing pass(reichen) but the next pass he broke and the one after that he broke too. What Im trying to say is its not as big of a deal as you think, the cars are A LOT closer in times when you sit down and look, personally I think if you leave the 4 cylinder cars by themselves and make the supra guys go elsewhere, the racing will be awesome and competition brings out the best in everyone

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by efi2nr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">while we are at it lets put top fuel and pro stock bike in the same class. That will bring in more racers </TD></TR></TABLE>

That would be scary to watch

 

The thing is, if they keep the rest of the current TS rules (26's, airbox, w/a ic) then the FWD cars should be able to run low 9's or high 8's. If they can't, then it's no different than SFWD now, with some guys running mid 9's and some guys running low 10's with the same setup.

 

It may work, but with restrictions to the AWD/RWD cars. I know I know, we all hate rules. The spirit of SFWD has to stay alive. Thats whats fueling alot of racers these days. If this FWD/AWD/RWD class gets out of hand, you're going to lose alot of FWD racers the next few months.

 

Turbo Street seemed to work well, and now it will only be 4 cyl. A couple guys have stepped into the 30s and more will next year. What is the big deal? Most of those AWD cars weigh quite a bit more and there aren't many of them. Hell the few that do exist don't even come out to races anyway so WGAF? And how many of the AWD cars can run a number EVERY pass? They break all the time and have trouble launching. You'll probably nail them on the tree and it will be over. They are the ones playing catchup.

 

Lets look at a recap of T/S for the results of 2007

Dallas -
Brian Ballard Chevy Cobalt .090 9.468 153.25 Winner
Jason Lopez 05 Scion .289 11.119 128.02

Phoenix -
Brian Ballard Chevy Cobalt .090 9.811 150.83 Winner
Cortney Green Honda Civic .247 15.133 58.86

Atco -
Brian Ballard Chevy Cobalt .191 9.317 155.56 Winner
Felix Medina Honda Civic .122 9.594 157.98

MD 1 -
Jonathan Reynolds Acura Integra .136 9.540 160.61 Winner
Brian Ballard Chevy Cobalt .169 9.551 151.83

St Louis -
Ari Yallon Mazda RX-7 .227 9.712 144.84 Winner
Chuck Seitsinger Honda Civic .750 13.771 63.30

Detroit -
Jonathan Reynolds Acura Integra .0660 9.5162 161.16 Winner
Jason Greenewalt Nixon 240SX .6452 10.1957 131.18

Epping, NH.
Jonathan Reynolds Acura Integra .092 9.469 161.36 Winner
Brian Ballard 07 .098 9.977 153.28

MD 2 -
Brian Ballard Chevy Cobalt .121 9.588 148.53 Winner
Joe Simpson Honda Civic .284 9.693 155.76


In short, only 1 RWD car won this season, and only 2 made it to the Finals......
No AWD cars made it to the finals or got a win.......

Why all of the hype on AWD/RWD cars? They have yet to perform where everyone says they will be and dominating the class......

My money is on a fwd car to take the win........

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tony1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The thing is, if they keep the rest of the current TS rules (26's, airbox, w/a ic) then the FWD cars should be able to run low 9's or high 8's. If they can't, then it's no different than SFWD now, with some guys running mid 9's and some guys running low 10's with the same setup.</TD></TR></TABLE>

thats the BIG thing that a lot of people are missing here. change the rules all you want and the people that are fast now are going to still be that much faster than everybody else.


the only threat with the awd cars is the evo's. the 1g and 2g dsms, mike richen included cant seem to make it through qualifying with out having some sort of a major probelem (no offense to dsm guys but you know where im coming from) the evo's do seem to be a bit more reliable. it would be much easier to slow down the awd cars than the fwd cars i think to make the racing even.

im real curious to see what the tire size on the fwd cars is going to be. as much as i'd like to experiment on 26's i think 24.5's are the better choice for the class

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by NOPIDRAGS &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Lets look a recap of T/S for the results of 2007

Dallas -
Brian Ballard Chevy Cobalt .090 9.468 153.25 Winner
Jason Lopez 05 Scion .289 11.119 128.02

Phoenix -
Brian Ballard Chevy Cobalt .090 9.811 150.83 Winner
Cortney Green Honda Civic .247 15.133 58.86

Atco -
Brian Ballard Chevy Cobalt .191 9.317 155.56 Winner
Felix Medina Honda Civic .122 9.594 157.98

MD 1 -
Jonathan Reynolds Acura Integra .136 9.540 160.61 Winner
Brian Ballard Chevy Cobalt .169 9.551 151.83

St Louis -
Ari Yallon Mazda RX-7 .227 9.712 144.84 Winner
Chuck Seitsinger Honda Civic .750 13.771 63.30

Detroit -
Jonathan Reynolds Acura Integra .0660 9.5162 161.16 Winner
Jason Greenewalt Nixon 240SX .6452 10.1957 131.18

Epping, NH.
Jonathan Reynolds Acura Integra .092 9.469 161.36 Winner
Brian Baccard 07 .098 9.977 153.28

MD 2 -
Brian Ballard Chevy Cobalt .121 9.588 148.53 Winner
Joe Simpson Honda Civic .284 9.693 155.76


In short, only 1 RWD car won this season, and only 2 made it to the Finals......
No AWD cars made it to the finals or got a win.......

Why all of the hype on AWD/RWD cars? They have yet to perform where everyone says they will be and dominating the class......

My money is on a fwd car to take the win........

</TD></TR></TABLE>

 

I say 24.5 and the 25" tall.

John
M&H

 

How about we do a spec tire???


John, you know anybody that would sponsor something like that???

 

People just want to bitch that's all..

I think combining them will make the class more exciting and isn't that we
we all need to fill the stands?

You will have different types of cars/drivetrans/etc all racing together similar
to what you would see on the street.

SFWD was a very exciting class to watch BUT it was 90% Honda's.
I think as long as the rules keep everyone running similiar ET's it would be a successful class

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by NOPIDRAGS &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">As you say "Rumors are flying".........

The class will only combine 4 cyl Fwd/Awd/Rwd cars.

The Supras will be in the Unlimited class......

It is still early in the equation, give us a chance to get the rules done before you start speculating that you can't keep up.......</TD></TR></TABLE>
i think everyone relizes that the 6 cyl cars will not be in that class, it is the evo's and 240's and such that will have an advantage.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by turbotypeR@SPEC &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
i think everyone relizes that the 6 cyl cars will not be in that class, it is the evo's and 240's and such that will have an advantage. </TD></TR></TABLE>

why would we have an advantage? NOPIguy just showed you that the class winners from last year were almost all fwd guys, if anything us rwd guys are going to have to come harder for next year because obviously it wasn't good enough last year.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by NOPIDRAGS &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">How about we do a spec tire???


John, you know anybody that would sponsor something like that??? </TD></TR></TABLE>

Been that route before aloooong time ago, give the racers a choice on what brand they want to run and you will have no problems.

John
M&H