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Old Nov 3, 2007 | 08:07 AM
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After three years of having crappy cars I finally got a 4th gen prelude, but I have some problems. I got the car from my older brother who did a bunch of work with it, but screwed something up. He put on a Koio radiator, sk2 I.M. and T.B., new fuel rails, I/H/E. The car sat in my driveway for about two years, so I drained and refilled all the fluids, but when I start it it will run for about 5-10 seconds then die. My brother said when he put on all the parts an injector was blown off at about six thousand RPMs. I'm thinking there's some type of fuel problem. Please, someone out there give me some advice! Thanks

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Old Nov 3, 2007 | 08:32 AM
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First off, congrats on the car. It's a fun car and will be VERY reliable if taken care of.

Anyway, how does the car run while it runs for the 5-10 seconds? Is it barely idling? Sputtering? Rns fine....then all fo the sudden shuts off?
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Old Nov 3, 2007 | 02:51 PM
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it all depends on the day, but for the most part it will run for about 5 seconds, and then die. thanks for the help guys. im not sure if it would factor in, but it still has the same gas in it from 2 years ago.

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Old Nov 3, 2007 | 02:58 PM
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Hows the battery? And altenator at that
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Old Nov 3, 2007 | 03:16 PM
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brand new battery, im not sure of the alternator, but all the accessories work, if that counts.
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Old Nov 3, 2007 | 03:22 PM
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the battery will make everything work while the car is off. Once its started the alternator takes over. If it needs to be replaced it could cause your car to die the way its dying. Post some pictures!
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Old Nov 3, 2007 | 03:29 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by H22Honda98 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> im not sure if it would factor in, but it still has the same gas in it from 2 years ago.

Ryan</TD></TR></TABLE>

That is definitely a factor. How much is in there? Fill it up with new Premium gas.
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Old Nov 3, 2007 | 03:29 PM
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Yeah two years old, get a voltage meter and keep it on the battery when you start the car. The car can run off the battery itself for about 5 mins. If your voltage drops while car is on, 20 bucks says its the altenator
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Old Nov 3, 2007 | 03:30 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Prudz_lude &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the battery will make everything work while the car is off. Once its started the alternator takes over. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Nope, that's incorrect. If his battery is charged, it will run. Lnce the battery dies, then the car will cut off.
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Old Nov 3, 2007 | 04:38 PM
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alright ill check the alternator. when my brother let it sit for two years it was because he screwed it up when the injector blew off at 6kRPM's. wouldnt it be mroe than just an alternator? thanks for all your help guys........
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Old Nov 3, 2007 | 04:40 PM
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Drain that old **** fuel out.
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Old Nov 3, 2007 | 04:44 PM
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how do you do that? syphon wouldnt work...
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Old Nov 3, 2007 | 04:46 PM
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Default Re: No more Cavaliers for me, I got a 1993 Honda Prelude VTEC, but I need some help... (H22Honda98)

There is a drain plug on the tank, 14mm iirc.
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Old Nov 3, 2007 | 04:51 PM
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alright ill do that and refill the gas tank with premium....do you think that will take care of everything?
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Old Nov 3, 2007 | 05:02 PM
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Default Re: No more Cavaliers for me, I got a 1993 Honda Prelude VTEC, but I need some help... (H22Honda98)

Take care of all the problems your having, i dont know. But it's not helping anything by pumping old fuel through the system. Premium fuel will degrade in 5 to 6 months from what i've been told.
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Old Nov 3, 2007 | 05:32 PM
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Default Re: No more Cavaliers for me, I got a 1993 Honda Prelude VTEC, but I need some help... (SteveoBA8)

I'm not boasting or anything, but it does have a lot of after market parts on the car. Would it need a tune for it to stay running? I'm thinking that maybe I'm not putting enough fuel through the system to match what's needed for the parts that are on it. Or maybe I need to find the bolt that drains the gas from the tank, but I'm not sure which one it is. If anyone could show a picture with the an arrow that points that would be great. Thanks,

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Old Nov 3, 2007 | 05:47 PM
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Default Re: No more Cavaliers for me, I got a 1993 Honda Prelude VTEC, but I need some help... (H22Honda98)

Hey I made my own username for this site, so if anyone was confused by where it said 5th gen... that was my buddy's account. I'm really excited to get this thing running, so any help at all I appreciate.
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Old Nov 3, 2007 | 06:21 PM
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Cool, try not to repost to much. Just do a reg tune up for now.

Change the following:
Oil Filter
Fuel Filter
Spark plugs
Sparkplug wires
Distributer cap and rotor
Break Fluid
Clutch Fluid
Timing, balance shaft, and altenator belt
Compression test and leak down test

Once that is done, you can go from there.
Once all that is done
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Old Nov 3, 2007 | 07:24 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Acidcrakker &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Change the following:
Oil Filter
Fuel Filter
Spark plugs
Sparkplug wires
Distributer cap and rotor
Break Fluid
Clutch Fluid
Timing, balance shaft, and altenator belt
Compression test and leak down test

Once that is done, you can go from there.
Once all that is done</TD></TR></TABLE>
x2 Do that and that should definately help! Also 2 years is a long time for fuel to be sitting, it could have gotten clogged somewhere from the fuel pump to the injectors, u might wanna try some seafoam or somethin to run through ur fuel..<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Prudz_lude &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the battery will make everything work while the car is off. Once its started the alternator takes over. If it needs to be replaced it could cause your car to die the way its dying. </TD></TR></TABLE> umm, back when my alternator was bad, I took mine off and took it down to autozone and drove it for half an hour there, and back and my car ran completly from the battery, trust me, if ur alternator was bad ur car would run for more than 5 seconds.
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Old Nov 4, 2007 | 04:50 PM
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I will definitely tune up all that stuff. I wouldn't have thought I needed some of that stuff. Oldsmobile's will do that kind of thing to you. After I do all that and put all new fluids in, and put in new gas... what if it still dies after 5 seconds? Is there anything else that it could be? When the car still had all newer things in it (before I got it) it would do that. That's why I got the car for so cheap. One of the injectors was blown off, could it have something do to with that even thought it was put back on? The things you guys have been saying is great. It keeps me working. Thanks,

Ryan

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Old Nov 4, 2007 | 05:21 PM
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What you need to do is figure out what all those random disconnected cords are. One of them looks like its the cruise control. Also paint job, and Engine Cleaner mabey some new wheels
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Old Nov 4, 2007 | 06:01 PM
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yeah take care of the maint stuff before you move on, because you need to anyways. IMO the gas DEFINATELY needs to be refilled with fresh gas.. since gas loses octane over time.(correct me if im wrong) i think we need better detail of the 5seconds it runs, it could be MANY things. i have never seen an injector blown off, but if it stopped running normally then and there.. thats probably a good place to start.

not sure, but can't it be that the timing belt snapped?
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Old Nov 4, 2007 | 11:07 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dagle &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yeah take care of the maint stuff before you move on, because you need to anyways. IMO the gas DEFINATELY needs to be refilled with fresh gas.. since gas loses octane over time.(correct me if im wrong) i think we need better detail of the 5seconds it runs, it could be MANY things. i have never seen an injector blown off, but if it stopped running normally then and there.. thats probably a good place to start.

not sure, but can't it be that the timing belt snapped?</TD></TR></TABLE>

If the timing belt snapped, it wouldn't run at all.
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Old Nov 4, 2007 | 11:12 PM
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hmm my mistake, confused disaster scenarios
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Yeah, after I did some reading, when I saw your post, an injector can't really be blown off. I was thinking since it got that new fuel rail, it was putting in too much gas and that caused it to "blow off". That's what I was told, but apparently that can't even happen. I'll start putting in all the new stuff... (gas, fluids, etc.). How much should it cost to do all that? Some of the cords might be from the A.C. because that was taken out for weight reduction, but I'd rather have the A.C. in the summer. The light turns on on the button for the C.C. so could it really be that? Thanks again guys,
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