well went to honda today to ask a few questions about putting some rsx wheels on my civic and they sent me over the acura since it wasn't a honda wheel. spoke to the service guy and he didn't know the difference between a chocolate bar and poo on a stick. called the tech out and he finally explained to me the problem.

All new honda's ans acura's using the tpmes have the wheels redesigned in order to fit the sensor in therefore we're utterly screwed i tried to ask them if I could swap the sensors over and he actually went out back and took out an rsx wheel to show why it couldn't be done, all about a bunch of angles and how the new wheels have a flat edge on the inside,and pulling the fuse does absolutely NOTHING, it only shuts the system down but then it send an error code which still lights the tpms light up. in the end i walked out disappointed that I have to live with that stupid yellow light. he did say I could go and try to make it work but if it breaks I'm out 60 bucks and well I don't have the luxury of taking that risk.



Cliffs: Honda screwed us with TPMS

 

one reason im glad i got one before the TPMS law went into effect

 

I am also happy I got a 07, but with time there will be a hack probably with a little box that acts like the sensor are there so there is no light on the dash.

 

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Ditto.

That really does suck. I'm sure there's some way around it though, or somebody will figure something out.

 

http://www.bimmerfest.com/foru...74116


and also this.


The 57-page Tread Act Final Rule only requires TPMS be installed and operational on new vehicles. It does NOT require the TPMS system to be functional if the original tires or wheels are replaced. Consequently, if a vehicle has its original tires and/or wheels replaced, there is no requirement to keep or maintain the TPMS system.
On indirect TPMS systems, the TPMS will continue to function even if the stock wheels or tires are replaced because it just compares relative wheel speeds. The only question here is the accuracy of the system if the OEM tires/wheels are replaced with larger wheels and lower profile tires that have stiffer sidewalls. The system may not be able to detect a low tire as easily as before.
On direct TPMS systems with sensors mounted inside the wheel at the base of the valve stem, there is no reason why the sensors could not be removed from the OEM wheels and installed in the aftermarket wheels (provided the valve stem fits the hole in the rim). But this may create a liability issue for the tire dealer who does the swap. Probably need a lawyer to figure this issue out. The tire dealers association has filed a petition asking NHTSA to revise the rule so replacement tires and wheels will be included.

http://www.tireindustry.org/pd...5.pdf

 

I have to say the information I have been provided about the civics TPMS on the Honda Interactive Network says that the warning light only comes on when the tire pressure reaches 25 psi or lower.

 

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Shenanigans! My guys check tires all day and sometimes they are 1-2 lbs low and the fawking lights come on. Honda TPMS sensors FTML!

 

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Shenanigans! My guys check tires all day and sometimes they are 1-2 lbs low and the fawking lights come on. Honda TPMS sensors FTML! </TD></TR></TABLE>


that is true..i get cars that come in with the tpms light on and they are all around 30-32psi and the freaking light is on for no reason...after i air them up to 34psi it goes away...i heard that cold wheather could cause that but im not positive

 

Yeah cold weather causes tire pressure to drop slightly, and if youre on the border of where the sensor is set to come on, your light will come on. We usually set tires a few lbs over the "recommended" pressure in the doorjam.

 

Wow that just sucks. Glad i got an 07

 

can you just pull the tach cluster and remove the bulb from behind the tpms symbol??

 

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Nitrogen inflated tires FTW!!!

 

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theres prolly a fuse for it

 

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thats waht i asked also but nope, ther is no bulb it's all LCD Display there are no bulbs to take out or replace.

 

The sensors can be put in some other wheels. My buddy just bought an 08 coupe and we changed his wheels and tires out. No problems whatsoever and no lights.

 

Z's have been swapping out their stock TPMS onto aftermarket wheels for years now. Guess the Honda crowd is behind the times since they haven't been on as many Hondas.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Type X &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">http://www.bimmerfest.com/foru...74116


and also this.


The 57-page Tread Act Final Rule only requires TPMS be installed and operational on new vehicles. It does NOT require the TPMS system to be functional if the original tires or wheels are replaced. Consequently, if a vehicle has its original tires and/or wheels replaced, there is no requirement to keep or maintain the TPMS system.
On indirect TPMS systems, the TPMS will continue to function even if the stock wheels or tires are replaced because it just compares relative wheel speeds. The only question here is the accuracy of the system if the OEM tires/wheels are replaced with larger wheels and lower profile tires that have stiffer sidewalls. The system may not be able to detect a low tire as easily as before.
On direct TPMS systems with sensors mounted inside the wheel at the base of the valve stem, there is no reason why the sensors could not be removed from the OEM wheels and installed in the aftermarket wheels (provided the valve stem fits the hole in the rim). But this may create a liability issue for the tire dealer who does the swap. Probably need a lawyer to figure this issue out. The tire dealers association has filed a petition asking NHTSA to revise the rule so replacement tires and wheels will be included.

http://www.tireindustry.org/pd...5.pdf</TD></TR></TABLE>

i have to take a look the the sensors. gm's new design uses a traditional rubber valve stem with a sensor attatched to it. will work in any style wheel. oem or aftermarket. since every wannabe gangster buys an escalade or hummer and throws 24's on them. we also have the ability to reprogram the the module with out the tpms. there is no reason why honda shouldn't be the same. ill see if i can take a look at a honda one up close tomorrow. maybe even a picture or two.

 

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i have to take a look the the sensors. gm's new design uses a traditional rubber valve stem with a sensor attatched to it. will work in any style wheel. oem or aftermarket. since every wannabe gangster buys an escalade or hummer and throws 24's on them. we also have the ability to reprogram the the module with out the tpms. there is no reason why honda shouldn't be the same. ill see if i can take a look at a honda one up close tomorrow. maybe even a picture or two.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Lets hope so! so i can bring it to acura and shove it to their faces!

 

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the only problem is that unless you know someone who works at a tire shop they would do it for you other wise its not worth the risk to do it for some average joe off the street

as a company( i work for ntb which is part of tire kingdom, merchant tire, and big o tire) we will NOT take tmps sensors out of any wheel to switch to a new one

now there are always way around this if you were to bring the wheels in off of the car have all the tires taken off and you take the sensors out and install them in what ever wheel you want to then have the tire installed on the new wheels

 

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as a company( i work for ntb which is part of tire kingdom, merchant tire, and big o tire)

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WHERE ARE THE DEALS FOR MEMBERS!!

 

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WHERE ARE THE DEALS FOR MEMBERS!!

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come see me ill help you out its just going to be a far drive for most of you

 

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come see me ill help you out its just going to be a far drive for most of you </TD></TR></TABLE>

I'll drive if you get me a deal on some RT-615's

 

We have a customer with a Ridgeline (different I know) and replaced his wheels with aftermarket ones. Switched the sensors over and works fine. Reintialize them........and your golden (key on, drop pressure in a tire to light comes on, refill to light goes out, adjust pressure and repeat with other wheels).

 

They also make extensions to move the sensor further into the barrel of the rim for low pro tires.

 

ok, tpms can be used on ANY rim! thats right any rim. when the corvettes came out with TpMS in 1987or so, it was the size of a baby squirrel and on the old corvettes, there really wasnt that much room to install a small profile tire and the tpms it self, so they invented using a p.o.s. banded air sensor style, crap! yup total POOP! i hate it and so do my customers i work with at Discount tire co, every day. and almost twenty years later, those craps are worthless, the car doesnt funstion nor does the tpms banded sensor. but now a days, there ia a standard tpms that attaches to the bottom of the rubber valves from the factory, so good bye chrome valves and hello long rubber valves FTW! and the RSX wheel, most likely has the plastic TPMS inside the wheel attached to a grommet at the base of the hole for the air valve, so to sum it all up tpms is gay, it barely helps you get your wheels from other to new cars, and makes you shell out more money since you have to spend more every time you get a flat or new set of tires. and if you have a TL-s or nissan quest, or odyssey, you're screwed with PAX tires. so pull a fuse save some time and hassle with programming and dealing with ALERT! TPMS when you air is low 5 psi... check once a month... it's not that hard to exercise your gauge!