FD: 4.40 VS 4.785 - comparison ?
hey i wanted to see if anyone's got 1/4 mile times before and after they installed the 4.785 Final gear.
to really tell me anything it'll have to be same everythng with the only change being the FD gear.
any one got info for me?
thanks
-steve
to really tell me anything it'll have to be same everythng with the only change being the FD gear.
any one got info for me?
thanks
-steve
thats harsh man
For a "final drive" search i found over 10 threads...
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=208157
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=204825
for example.
u got a serious problem (00-0187)....
Anyway the Difference in final drives, is the 4.785 FD make the gears spin relatively quicker, compared to stock(4.40). The 4.785 FD keeps u High RPM's...
Nick
Anyway the Difference in final drives, is the 4.785 FD make the gears spin relatively quicker, compared to stock(4.40). The 4.785 FD keeps u High RPM's...
Nick
cool. guy who hasnt even been here 3 months tells me I have a serious problem.
theres a search function. use it. its very useful.
By the way, I know I have a serious problem
theres a search function. use it. its very useful.
By the way, I know I have a serious problem
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Damn, who gives a **** if I've been here 3 months, the point is the man asked a question, you either answer or not, don't be givin him a hard time. He may be a newbie to Honda Tech but ur a newbie to some other things........
Nick
Nick
So far I have really noticed no big difference between the 2 (had the 4.78 for 1 day). I have the Toda flywheel also and all these people talking about it reving quicker, I just don't feel it. 1\4 comparison soon.
So far I have really noticed no big difference between the 2 (had the 4.78 for 1 day). I have the Toda flywheel also and all these people talking about it reving quicker, I just don't feel it. 1\4 comparison soon.
u got a serious problem (00-0187)....
Anyway the Difference in final drives, is the 4.785 FD make the gears spin relatively quicker, compared to stock(4.40). The 4.785 FD keeps u High RPM's...
Nick
You know you didn't even answer his question.
Its good for about .3 tenths in the quarter mile.......but its much happier on a road course because its easier to keep the car in the revs.
Mattj
No he's right, you really are an *******.
I just ran for the fist time after 4.785 fd install.
14.60 a couple years ago with intake,header. Minor weight reduction: Back seatbacks, spare, console, pass seat. Street tires.
Last night: JDM fd, 2.5" header + exhaust, exedy clutch, spoon fly. Lots of weight reduction. 2480lbs with me: All above the above plus rear seat cushions, carpet, radio, pass aigbag, CF hood. no A/C. Z-10 bars R comp tires.
14.2 @ 97.6, 2.2x 60 ft.
The final drive definetly makes launching trickier. I found clutch slip to be most effective. I only had a few runs, and I wasn't able to nail a launch
. Bog @ 4.5k, spin+hop @ 6k, Minor spin+hop from 6k with clutch slippage that was a little late.
I think that if you learn to launch with it, that mod alone is worth .3-.4 seconds. I actually get to use the 4th gear when I shift now.
[e]Looks like I'll have to play with them z-10 bars a little more...
Oh and in my defense the weather sucked. 85 deg. with 90% hum.
And Matt's right, it helps a shlode on the road course.
[Modified by sackdz, 10:07 PM 6/22/2002]
I just ran for the fist time after 4.785 fd install.
14.60 a couple years ago with intake,header. Minor weight reduction: Back seatbacks, spare, console, pass seat. Street tires.
Last night: JDM fd, 2.5" header + exhaust, exedy clutch, spoon fly. Lots of weight reduction. 2480lbs with me: All above the above plus rear seat cushions, carpet, radio, pass aigbag, CF hood. no A/C. Z-10 bars R comp tires.
14.2 @ 97.6, 2.2x 60 ft.
The final drive definetly makes launching trickier. I found clutch slip to be most effective. I only had a few runs, and I wasn't able to nail a launch
. Bog @ 4.5k, spin+hop @ 6k, Minor spin+hop from 6k with clutch slippage that was a little late.I think that if you learn to launch with it, that mod alone is worth .3-.4 seconds. I actually get to use the 4th gear when I shift now.

[e]Looks like I'll have to play with them z-10 bars a little more...
Oh and in my defense the weather sucked. 85 deg. with 90% hum.

And Matt's right, it helps a shlode on the road course.
[Modified by sackdz, 10:07 PM 6/22/2002]
about 4600 rpm at 80 mph...
4.785 isn't quite as bad, but it's still not quite as yummy imho.....

these gears aren't for everyone though... If you're gonna drag, take your rev limiter to 10k on your motor built to that... That way you'll only top 3rd and not have to waste time shifting into 4th.
jdm final is supposed to be worth .2-.3 in the 1320.....
ats final is... i dunno... hopefully just as good (with traction)
and thank goodness for rev-limiters...never have hit it so much since the ATS went in......
ATS 4.929 ownz j00! Still getting used to it....1st autoX on it tomorrow! 2nd gear, no more shall we bog!
oh man, you're gonna love it. I have seriously dropped at least 5 seconds with that mod alone! Our region's autox is next weekend and I can't wait.
yeah, of course the first thing i did after putting it in was drive 12 hours on I-95 back to northern VA... 
..well, i guess the FIRST thing was banging the snot out of it around UCF & orlando...but i still laugh at the pointless irony of shortening one's final gear before driving 900 miles at highway speed. passing trucks was super-easy tho!

..well, i guess the FIRST thing was banging the snot out of it around UCF & orlando...but i still laugh at the pointless irony of shortening one's final gear before driving 900 miles at highway speed. passing trucks was super-easy tho!
schoolin the newbie hahaa, you f-in Ck sucka, ive been hybrid for 4 years.
so the consensus is .2~.4 in the 1/4 mile, THANKS to the FEW who actually used bandwith properly.
sorry to those who get bothered b/c its a FAQ, im not online as much as you, and dont have the super hyper honda tech rep! hahaha...homos...
-steve
so the consensus is .2~.4 in the 1/4 mile, THANKS to the FEW who actually used bandwith properly.
sorry to those who get bothered b/c its a FAQ, im not online as much as you, and dont have the super hyper honda tech rep! hahaha...homos...
-steve




