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Old Jun 21, 2002 | 03:53 PM
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has anyone here actually performed a side by side comparison of the V1 vs. Passport 8500?

it really seems as though the passport is winning most of the 'professional' shootouts these days. and although i dig the directional indicator of the V1 i don't know that it's worth the extra $100 because that's all i really see at the difference.

since both have a 30-day test drive i'm thinking about buying both and doing some hands on testing.
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Old Jun 21, 2002 | 03:56 PM
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Not again.

since both have a 30-day test drive i'm thinking about buying both and doing some hands on testing.
The best thing for you to do. Try 'em both. See which one you like the best.
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Old Jun 21, 2002 | 04:00 PM
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V1 craps all over the 8500, sorry, but in real life its true. Also, for the people who say the arrows are stupid, use the for a day and you will see the light! The V1 gets a big from me!
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Old Jun 21, 2002 | 04:04 PM
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V1 craps all over the 8500, sorry, but in real life its true. Also, for the people who say the arrows are stupid, use the for a day and you will see the light! The V1 gets a big from me!
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Course it costs $100 more!

Let's comapre top of the line to top of the line bitch.

Valentine 1 vs. http://www.escortradar.com/srx.htm

Now who craps all over who, huh bitch? What's up now!

Just kidding man j/k

But anyways, in all honestly, most of the people who make claims on this board know **** about radar detectors, and don't know what the hell they are talking about. you wanna compare two units, then make a fair comparison. You can't compare Escorts 3rd best unit with Valentines best and only unit. Ain't exactly a fair comparison.

Check this link out, reviewing the SRX:

http://www.radartest.com/REMRD.html#PassportSRX


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Old Jun 21, 2002 | 04:09 PM
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The best thing for you to do. Try 'em both. See which one you like the best.
i found 2 archived threads with talked about some tests and one said V1 = and the other said passport

ed - i was reading about all the different features of the passport. some neat stuff but most of it i could care less about. i wanna know when mr po-po is looking for me.

hey wait a sec, don't you live in virginia? huhuhu

you're not gonna be a summit pt, right? i'm gonna drive down tomorrow and hang out for the day. maybe that will sway ya.
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Old Jun 21, 2002 | 04:15 PM
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Click here to check out the radar detector test in the February 2002 issue of Car and Driver. Valentine 1 was first with 97 points out of a possible 100, and was superior to the others in almost every aspect. The Passport 8500 came in second with a distant 73.

Valentine 1
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Old Jun 21, 2002 | 04:17 PM
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i've got the V1 Lance. I tit. I like the fact that you can get accessories for the V1. the one in particular is the Concealed Display with band identification


i will add that soon... Do a search on "Valentine one mounts" on yahoo. lots of kewl links on how to hook it up

granted it's not JDM but d00d, doesn't have to be

-aoib0t, who finally caught some popo's in the San Diego area


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Old Jun 21, 2002 | 04:18 PM
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V1 craps all over the 8500, sorry, but in real life its true. Also, for the people who say the arrows are stupid, use the for a day and you will see the light! The V1 gets a big from me!'

Course it costs $100 more!

Let's comapre top of the line to top of the line bitch.

Valentine 1 vs. http://www.escortradar.com/srx.htm

Now who craps all over who, huh bitch? What's up now!

Just kidding man j/k

But anyways, in all honestly, most of the people who make claims on this board know **** about radar detectors, and don't know what the hell they are talking about. you wanna compare two units, then make a fair comparison. You can't compare Escorts 3rd best unit with Valentines best and only unit. Ain't exactly a fair comparison.

Check this link out, reviewing the SRX:

http://www.radartest.com/REMRD.html#PassportSRX


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Well, i bet the V1 offers just as good protection as that remote installed Escort garbage. I have used lots of detectors over the years, and the Valentine 1 is the ONLY one i would ever recommend to anyone. If your still not convinced, get both the 8500 and the V1, put them both on your windshield for the 30 days, notice how the V1 goes off like 7 seconds earlier on Ka(while at the same time telling you where the source is), and return the 8500 when you have finished testing
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Old Jun 21, 2002 | 04:18 PM
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yeah i know but that seems to be one of the few anymore which are picking the V1 #1
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Click here to check out the radar detector test in the February 2002 issue of Car and Driver. Valentine 1 was first with 97 points out of a possible 100, and was superior to the others in almost every aspect. The Passport 8500 came in second with a distant 73.

Valentine 1
But they didn't even rate the SRX, didn't even rate it, or test it, fawk them!

www.speedzones.com

BAM!

I knew you'd jump in for this one Ken
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Old Jun 21, 2002 | 04:20 PM
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Well, i bet the V1 offers just as good protection as that remote installed Escort garbage. I have used lots of detectors over the years, and the Valentine 1 is the ONLY one i would ever recommend to anyone. If your still not convinced, get both the 8500 and the V1, put them both on your windshield for the 30 days, notice how the V1 goes off like 7 seconds earlier on Ka(while at the same time telling you where the source is), and return the 8500 when you have finished testing
The SRX garbage? Do you even know what you are talking about? No, course not, cause you are just spewing bullshit which you cannot back up. Ever used the SRX? No, good, shut up then.
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Old Jun 21, 2002 | 04:20 PM
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yeah i know but that seems to be one of the few anymore which are picking the V1 #1
That's cause thye are probably in bed with V1. I don't trust their reviews on cars, nor would I on radar detectors.
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Old Jun 21, 2002 | 04:25 PM
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if j00 going to put them side by side lance,

get something like this too



i use one that has 2 outlets. one for the alarm, another for anything else (i.e. phone charger)

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Old Jun 21, 2002 | 04:27 PM
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Oh, no, Chris - there you go again trying to promote the $1500 SRX that performs worse than the Valentine 1.

Anyone here can read that earlier thread. Just to repeat...

The Passport SRX contains the same circuitry as the 8500. According to the Speedzone website in your link, "The SRX is the most advanced remote yet featuring the programming and performance of the dash mount 8500." Based on the speedzone information, it appears that the SRX radar performance is only as good as the 8500, which doesn't test as well as the Valentine 1, according to Car and Driver.

It also doesn't indicate the direction that radar is coming from. And, as technology improves over the next few years, what options will you have to get the latest technology? Will you be able to upgrade it to the latest technology, or will you be stuck buying a whole new one? Funny how they don't mention anything about upgrades on their website.

Until there are tests by an independent source such as Car and Driver, that tests the SRX side by side against the Valentine 1, and concludes that it detects radar better than the Valentine 1, we can only conclude that the radar performance of the Valentine 1 is superior, based on everything we know.

And that $1500 price tag is just a wee bit ridiculous, dontcha think?

Chris, do you own stock in Escort/Passport? Just wondering why you would be pushing a model that performs so poorly...



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Old Jun 21, 2002 | 04:34 PM
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Thanks for backing me up NSXJR!
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Old Jun 21, 2002 | 04:36 PM
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Chris, do you own stock in Escort/Passport? Just wondering why you would be pushing a model that performs so poorly...[Modified by nsxtcjr, 7:30 PM 6/21/2002]
Gotta pay those hefty out of state Arizona State fees

But the SRX is external, and it blocks all laser; totally scrambles it.
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That's cause thye are probably in bed with V1. I don't trust their reviews on cars, nor would I on radar detectors.
That's funny, because Car and Driver has their reputation on the line, whether they're testing radar detectors or cars. They need to keep their reputation for objectivity. And, for twenty years, they have consistently led ALL the car magazines with the most objective, and the most frequent, tests of radar detectors, laser detectors/jammers, radar jammers, and similar equipment. They were publishing tests long before Valentine Research was formed.

I would be a whole lot more inclined to trust an independent publication like Car and Driver than a website that is responsible to no one except one individual, its webmaster, and doesn't care if it has an ax to grind. That's happened in the case of one of the testing websites, which is run by a guy named Craig Peterson who for some unknown reason hates the Valentine 1, just like you, Chris.

If Car and Driver tests showed that one detector was better than another, and it weren't true, you'd have a whole lot of people calling them on it. You don't - because the Valentine 1 is simply superior, with longer range and wider angles of detection. And they continue to upgrade their technology. THAT'S why people trust the Car and Driver tests - because they're thorough and they're objective and they speak the truth.
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But the SRX is external, and it blocks all laser; totally scrambles it.
Yes, it does. So do the other laser jammers on the market, which sell for about $300. So you can buy a laser jammer and a Valentine 1, and have $800 change sitting in your pocket compared to what you would spend on the SRX. What do you get with the SRX that's worth 800 friggin' dollars more ?
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As far as the detectors, is there a new V1 that's smaller than the original?
Yes. Valentine 1 continually improves its product. They recently shrunk its case height by 0.29 inch and weight by 1.5 ounces. Now, compared to the others that were tested, it has the shortest height, the shortest length, and the lightest weight:

Dimensions: 4.5 in. L x 3.6 in. W x 1.0 in. H.
Weight: 6.4 ounces
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Old Jun 21, 2002 | 04:43 PM
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But the SRX is external, and it blocks all laser; totally scrambles it.
isn't that illegal?

Lance -- I'm still not sure about Summit Point.
come on ed. the way you drive it can't be more than 20 minutes from old town.


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i dunno... what if you were tracked by laser guided missles :D you can scramble it :D

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isn't that illegal?
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Nope, because laser is covered by the FDA; they have no laws stopping the scrambling of laser in traffic enforcement.
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isn't that illegal?
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Nope, because laser is covered by the FDA; they have no laws stopping the scrambling of laser in traffic enforcement.
F00d and Drug Administration?

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Old Jun 21, 2002 | 04:56 PM
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Enough bitching already. This topic could be (and has been) debated for months, and one side would not convine the other that they are correct/incorrect.

IMO, the best thing for you to do, is to quit listening to everyone at H-T, and

since both have a 30-day test drive i'm thinking about buying both and doing some hands on testing.
Pick up the phone and start ordering already! Choose whichever one works best for your needs.

The bottom line: Both are worthy choices for your $$/$$$, but will not make any difference if you think they will save your *** if you set the cruise at 90.
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Old Jun 21, 2002 | 05:00 PM
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Pick up the phone and start ordering already!
chill homey.
little too late on a friday night for that.
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