Okay so Im working on my motor right now, its just hanging around. I got like 50 questions and I took pictures with my camera phone, they looked fine on the phone but when transfered to my Lab top they look like crap. So please help me figure out what is what and what can be replaced and whats good. I did not buy the motor from Hmotors, I bought it from a private dealer for like 900 bucks so it needs some work IMO. + =



This wheel thing is cracked and broken. What is it, what does it do, and how is it taken off?


Some misc frayed wires?


Where my finger is there is a severed hose, what is it?



Removed the header and there was a dirt like substance inbetween each header hole. I rubbed my finger in the header hole and got that black soot. Is that normal, bad, to much to little. Mabey it burns oil from all that black build up?


misc bolt, who knows, didnt take it off but it was just chilling in a crevis between block and header.



Something severed? bad pics


more severed hose


another severed hose, it runs along the fuel rail though...


This would be my biggest concern, its a whole set of wires that looks like the harness was hacked off.


These are the cam gears right??? Anyway they look a little old and worn, suggestions, mabey replacement, recommendations.


Okay its a tag that was attached to the motor that said compression test. I know the pics are real crappy, Ill try to get more but these are what I have to go on. Any one know what the sticker should read.

Thanks guys, this is a real pain in the ***, but a tremendous learning experience, any help/advice would be really great.

 

I don't have the time right now to go thru and answer them all, but a lot of this stuff is way too hard to see.

Best of luck. A helms manual would be able to identify all of this for you.

 

yeah i got helms. how bout first pic?

 

Crank pulley, get a new one because it doesn't need to be out of balance. It may not hurt anything with little chips out of it, but you never know.

Can't see ****!

It's dirty. Clean it.

Don't worry about it...just hang onto it until you think you might need it later.

They cut your power steering line. You'll have to get new lines if you want power steering.

Vacuum line...find out where it goes to or comes from and let us know...

Can't tell where it's coming from from the pic....

They're just dirty...not really worn. Replace the timing belt for sure, but aftermarket cam gears are definately not needed. I wouldn't mess with them at your current skill level.

You should see 4 numbers on there one for each cylinder...like 200, 205, 195 200 or something like that. As long as they are all within 5-10 points of eachother that's fine.

 

Thanks hawk. SO a new timing belt.

Any suggestings on the crank pulley? After market or OEM?

Can the power steering lines be used form the h23a1 on the h22a?

 

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Any suggestings on the crank pulley? After market or OEM?

Can the power steering lines be used form the h23a1 on the h22a?</TD></TR></TABLE>

New T-belt and a new tensioner for sure.

I have had an UR crank pulley for many years without problems...I think it's a good upgrade unless you are making a lot of power over stock.

I'm 99% sure the PS lines are the same...

 

looks like your in for a learning experience.. i would just buy a whole of bunch of new **** just to be on the safe side: new timing belt, tensioner (maybe convert to manual) water pump, get a oem crank pulley, whats the motor going in?

 

92 si.

i got a buch of new stuff for it and im on my way to now to get some better pics with my digital cam.

Heres my list right now.
Valve cover gasket
Double platinum spark plugs Denso
Oil filter (bosh)
Oem motor mounts

Im planning on starting next week with the swap but I have some more parts coming in so prob wednesday.

 

Okay here are some more pics.

This one is the wires that got hacked off.


This is the one that sits on top the fuel rail


Thanks guys

So far this is my updated list of things I need to complete my swap.

Crank Pulley(undeiceded which one. Want after market not OEM for insurance reasons)
Timing belt
Altenator belt
Auto tensioner


Any other suggestions would be great.

 

Well, that wiring harness is a major harness...they f'ed you on that one. You'll have to find a new harness.

And that vacuum line I beleieve goes over to the EGR solenoids on the driver side engine bay. Look up a vacuum diagram to see exactly where.

 

What are the odds that someone on here has that one harness. Cause Im prob sure that honda wont sell me just that.<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Hawkze_2.3 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Well, that wiring harness is a major harness...they f'ed you on that one. You'll have to find a new harness.

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jsut use the harness that was on the old engine in the 92si and make a new subharness for the 3 vtec wires, the h23 harness i the same except for that. the hose that is circled in teh second pic goes to the PCV valve that would normally be sitting in that hole in teh valve cover, you are also missing the grommet in that hole as well.

 

Yeah I order the PVC gromet today from honda. I bought the PVC filter already. Im also replacing valve cover gasket. They had to special order it after they sold the wrong one(******** at autozone). Im looking online for crank pulleys now.

So I can use the H23 harness and wire 3 new wires for Vtec. Okay that isnt that bad.

I think my Vtec pins arrive today but they are sitting at post office cause I wasnt home

Ha, so....Thanks guys

 

put something in your sig like:

"WANTED: OBDI H series COMPLETE/UNCUT engine harness"

 

Will the crank pulley off the h23a1 fit the h22a

 

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i want to say no, but i cant tell you for sure.

buy a timing belt, main seal, and water pump from http://www.slhondaparts.com.

you can get an alternator belt at autozone.

the main thing you need is a wire harness.

 

Yeah well Im buying a lightened crank pulley by Unorthadox racing. So thats that.

As for the engine harness, Im pretty sure that Ill be able to hack off the pre-existing ones off the h23 and soldier the link, and just run the Vtec wires. A whole engine harness is like 1200 bucks. Which Im not buying that, its to much.

As for timing belts im looking at this so if you can tell me your opinon on the 2 that be great.
Honda Prelude
H22A, 2.2L, VTEC #56880
152.50 135.81
Honda Prelude
H22A, 2.2L, VTEC -Balance Shaft Belt #56881

I dont know what a balance shaft belt is.
This is the link for the page.
http://www.horsepowerfreaks.co...Belts

I dont know what the diffrence is.

As for the water pump thats been suggested to me, but Im gonna try to skimp out on that if I can and use the H23 one I already have. Thoughts on that to.

Thanks again

 

you cant use a jdm wiring harness fyi

just use your h23 one

The h23 crank pulley will fit the h22 physically, but your accessory belts will have to be 1 rib narrower than h22 belts, in other words, use all h23 belts.

 

you cant use the h23 water pump.

 

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Okay so new water pump

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just use your h23 one

The h23 crank pulley will fit the h22 physically, but your accessory belts will have to be 1 rib narrower than h22 belts, in other words, use all h23 belts.</TD></TR></TABLE>

All the wire harnesses on the h23a1 will have to be cut anyway, and switched over to the h22a?

A balance shaft belt and timing belt are 2 diffrent things...?

 

u should get a manual.

if you pull the timing covers off ull see the balancer shaft belt. it is in front of the timing belt. it routes around the crankshaft, oil pump and balancer shaft. if you have never done a timing belt before i would at least get a manual if not try to find someone with expirience to help u out.

 

Thanks I got two. They will be broken out during the work. So much for a 1200 dollar swap as origionally inteneded. I must of hit over 2500$ this week. Man after this swap is done. Im taking a break from my prelude for the winter and picking up next spring.

I just want to say thanks to everyone for imputting here, it really helps me out alot.

 

the engine harness is a plug and play deal man, unplug from h23, plug onto h22.

all you have to do is add 3 wires for vtec.

are you sure you're prepared to do work like this?

 

Am I sure. Yeah, Its to late to turn back now. Im getting a basic run down of how this is gonna play out. Now im just going over the last details for this swap, and completing missing items, list. Other than that Im ready to pull that thing out tonight, but I have to wait till all my parts get in for that to happen. Thanks

 

If I was you, I'd leave the stock crank pulley on there.

It has a rubber ring designed to cut down on harmonics in the bottom end that cause slight crank distortions and without it you're risking premature bearing failure.

A slightly chipped outer pulley will be fine, but a pulley with no harmonic damper is not. Unorthodox pullies have no damper of any sort.