Anyone involved in the PA bust last week/few weeks ago?
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Anyone involved in the PA bust last week/few weeks ago?
Heard on the radio this morning that like 40 cops raided a weekly meeting/racing meet in York PA with about 200 cars per week. I know a few ITR guys up there have invited me out but I've never gone bc of the 40 min drive.
Hope none of you guys were arrested during this!
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Hope none of you guys were arrested during this!
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Re: Anyone involved in the PA bust last week/few weeks ago? (totsie7944)
this is all i could find about it. all the good sites are blocked at my work
http://www.ydr.com/newsfull/ci_7256613
Sweep in lot nets 210
Police: A weekly parking-lot gathering constitutes trespassing and encourages drag racing.
By MIKE HOOVER
Daily Record/Sunday News
Article Last Updated: 10/23/2007 09:47:42 AM EDT
At bottom: · AT A GLANCE
Oct 23, 2007 — As York City Police Officer William Wentz watched over a crowd of people in the Northwest Plaza shopping center Saturday night, he saw one police car chase a dragster down Route 30.
The dragster got away - and is an example of why police cracked down.
“The people we were arresting were cheering as (the dragster) was in police pursuit,” said Wentz, the city's nuisance abatement officer.
For more than a year, police have fielded complaints from drivers, businesses and people who live in the Colony Park and Fireside areas about loud crowds of people with their cars hanging out after-hours at the shopping center on Route 30 in York, Wentz said.
Despite posted “No Trespassing signs, crowds in the parking lot at Northwest Plaza in the 900 block of Loucks Road sometime swell to 300 people, officials said.
Racers are so bold that they use other drivers to stop traffic on heavily traveled Route 30 so dragsters can race between Fairlane Road and Roosevelt Avenue at speeds of more than 70 mph, Wentz said.
A few weeks
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ago, the crowds started throwing fireworks, he said.
When officers on patrol respond to the complaints, they find themselves outnumbered and ignored, Wentz said.
Saturday, 40 officers from five agencies arrested 210 people in the parking lot on trespassing charges.
About 20 police officers arrived in five unmarked vans in a “Trojan horse” surprise approach. Several marked police cars blocked the entrances.
“There was a massive wave of people trying to run to their cars. Everyone was panicking trying to find a way out,” Wentz said.
Police made them sit down and empty out their pockets before they were shuttled to the Lincoln Fire Station to be cited.
More than three dozen vehicles were towed from the private property by a towing firm that property owners hired.
The racing has attracted people from all over Pennsylvania and Maryland, mainly young adults, Wentz said. The attraction was posted on the Internet as a place to street race and meet people, he said.
Wentz said the crackdown will curb the racing for a while. For the next time, he plans to have a portable toilet to be used by the crowds, which took more than four hours to transport and process, he said.
“This lesson will eventually wear off. I think they will be back,” Wentz said.
Some of those arrested have complained they were just looking at the cars, York City Police Commissioner Mark Whitman said.
Charles Lauver of Columbia was one of them.
After having dinner at Old Country Buffet, the car enthusiast went outside, where he stopped to look at the cars.
“It looked like a function was going on, like the cars were supposed to be there,” Lauver said.
Now, the 30-year-old faces more trouble because Saturday's citation is possibly a violation of his parole.
“I don't frequent that place. I was in the wrong place at the wrong time,” Lauver said.
But the city's police commissioner said those in the parking were trespassing on private property that was legally posted by the owner.
Springettsbury Township Police participated in the crackdown to send a message: that speeding and drag racing cannot be tolerated, township police Lt. Scott Laird said.
“We cannot allow innocent people to be put at risk. They are racing on a public highway,” he said.
Staff writer Michele Canty contributed to this report.
AT A GLANCE
WHAT DO YOU THINK?
The sweep: 9 p.m. Saturday to 5 a.m. Sunday
Where: 900 block of Loucks Road, Northeast Shopping Center parking lot
Officers involved: 40
Number of citations: 210
Number of cars towed: More than three dozen
Those with children: 39 (They were cited at the lot and released.)
The agencies involved: York City Police, West Manchester Township Police, Springettsbury Township Police, York County Sheriff's Office and York County Detectives
More charges? As police review the footage of surveillance video from the past month, others might be charged, Police Commissioner Mark Whitman said.
The videos show trespassing, noise, squealing tires, loud radios, speeding and racing, Whitman said.
Those found speeding on the highway face more serious charges, such as reckless driving or reckless endangerment, he said.
Whitman warns of future crackdowns and said police will not turn a blind eye to lawlessness.
"I'm sure they will think this is one and done. But we're not finished," he said.
http://www.ydr.com/newsfull/ci_7256613
Sweep in lot nets 210
Police: A weekly parking-lot gathering constitutes trespassing and encourages drag racing.
By MIKE HOOVER
Daily Record/Sunday News
Article Last Updated: 10/23/2007 09:47:42 AM EDT
At bottom: · AT A GLANCE
Oct 23, 2007 — As York City Police Officer William Wentz watched over a crowd of people in the Northwest Plaza shopping center Saturday night, he saw one police car chase a dragster down Route 30.
The dragster got away - and is an example of why police cracked down.
“The people we were arresting were cheering as (the dragster) was in police pursuit,” said Wentz, the city's nuisance abatement officer.
For more than a year, police have fielded complaints from drivers, businesses and people who live in the Colony Park and Fireside areas about loud crowds of people with their cars hanging out after-hours at the shopping center on Route 30 in York, Wentz said.
Despite posted “No Trespassing signs, crowds in the parking lot at Northwest Plaza in the 900 block of Loucks Road sometime swell to 300 people, officials said.
Racers are so bold that they use other drivers to stop traffic on heavily traveled Route 30 so dragsters can race between Fairlane Road and Roosevelt Avenue at speeds of more than 70 mph, Wentz said.
A few weeks
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ago, the crowds started throwing fireworks, he said.
When officers on patrol respond to the complaints, they find themselves outnumbered and ignored, Wentz said.
Saturday, 40 officers from five agencies arrested 210 people in the parking lot on trespassing charges.
About 20 police officers arrived in five unmarked vans in a “Trojan horse” surprise approach. Several marked police cars blocked the entrances.
“There was a massive wave of people trying to run to their cars. Everyone was panicking trying to find a way out,” Wentz said.
Police made them sit down and empty out their pockets before they were shuttled to the Lincoln Fire Station to be cited.
More than three dozen vehicles were towed from the private property by a towing firm that property owners hired.
The racing has attracted people from all over Pennsylvania and Maryland, mainly young adults, Wentz said. The attraction was posted on the Internet as a place to street race and meet people, he said.
Wentz said the crackdown will curb the racing for a while. For the next time, he plans to have a portable toilet to be used by the crowds, which took more than four hours to transport and process, he said.
“This lesson will eventually wear off. I think they will be back,” Wentz said.
Some of those arrested have complained they were just looking at the cars, York City Police Commissioner Mark Whitman said.
Charles Lauver of Columbia was one of them.
After having dinner at Old Country Buffet, the car enthusiast went outside, where he stopped to look at the cars.
“It looked like a function was going on, like the cars were supposed to be there,” Lauver said.
Now, the 30-year-old faces more trouble because Saturday's citation is possibly a violation of his parole.
“I don't frequent that place. I was in the wrong place at the wrong time,” Lauver said.
But the city's police commissioner said those in the parking were trespassing on private property that was legally posted by the owner.
Springettsbury Township Police participated in the crackdown to send a message: that speeding and drag racing cannot be tolerated, township police Lt. Scott Laird said.
“We cannot allow innocent people to be put at risk. They are racing on a public highway,” he said.
Staff writer Michele Canty contributed to this report.
AT A GLANCE
WHAT DO YOU THINK?
The sweep: 9 p.m. Saturday to 5 a.m. Sunday
Where: 900 block of Loucks Road, Northeast Shopping Center parking lot
Officers involved: 40
Number of citations: 210
Number of cars towed: More than three dozen
Those with children: 39 (They were cited at the lot and released.)
The agencies involved: York City Police, West Manchester Township Police, Springettsbury Township Police, York County Sheriff's Office and York County Detectives
More charges? As police review the footage of surveillance video from the past month, others might be charged, Police Commissioner Mark Whitman said.
The videos show trespassing, noise, squealing tires, loud radios, speeding and racing, Whitman said.
Those found speeding on the highway face more serious charges, such as reckless driving or reckless endangerment, he said.
Whitman warns of future crackdowns and said police will not turn a blind eye to lawlessness.
"I'm sure they will think this is one and done. But we're not finished," he said.
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well being that I frequent a lot of the local spots here in NY/NJ, all I have to say is that all the police need to do is have one or two patrol cars IN THE PARKING LOT while everyone hangs out. Simple as that but they dont seem to get it. If the police are in the parking lot all night, the idiots wouldnt act up and cause problems. We get kicked out of spots on a weekly basis because people are doing burnouts and donuts, etc. If the police were there the whole time these idiots wouldnt be doing those things and trashing the lots. Many of us have tried to govern it ourselves but thats doesnt work and only causes more problems and fights, etc.
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Re: (RTW DC2R)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RTW DC2R »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well being that I frequent a lot of the local spots here in NY/NJ, all I have to say is that all the police need to do is have one or two patrol cars IN THE PARKING LOT while everyone hangs out. Simple as that but they dont seem to get it. If the police are in the parking lot all night, the idiots wouldnt act up and cause problems. </TD></TR></TABLE>
i totally agree, but it seems that where i live all of the kids in town don't really seem to care. cops or no cops they still do really really dumb things.
i totally agree, but it seems that where i live all of the kids in town don't really seem to care. cops or no cops they still do really really dumb things.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RTW DC2R »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well being that I frequent a lot of the local spots here in NY/NJ, all I have to say is that all the police need to do is have one or two patrol cars IN THE PARKING LOT while everyone hangs out. Simple as that but they dont seem to get it. If the police are in the parking lot all night, the idiots wouldnt act up and cause problems. </TD></TR></TABLE>
I completely agree....theres like 4 meets a week near Baltimore or just north of it that me and my friends go to a few times a month on sundays if we are bored....1 cop car shows up and we simply leave. Honestly, at our meets there are about 30-150 cars sometimes, but NO racing.
I don't see what the big deal is about meeting in huge parking lots like Home Depot at 9-10 at night on Sundays after everythings closed if theres no racing. Its honest fun and walking around checking out cars. Even our fathers could have fun doing this.
That being said, I think its absurd anyone just watching got a citation....seriously WTF?
I completely agree....theres like 4 meets a week near Baltimore or just north of it that me and my friends go to a few times a month on sundays if we are bored....1 cop car shows up and we simply leave. Honestly, at our meets there are about 30-150 cars sometimes, but NO racing.
I don't see what the big deal is about meeting in huge parking lots like Home Depot at 9-10 at night on Sundays after everythings closed if theres no racing. Its honest fun and walking around checking out cars. Even our fathers could have fun doing this.
That being said, I think its absurd anyone just watching got a citation....seriously WTF?
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we had one of those busts out near us a year or so ago. exact same scenario. impounded about 10-12 cars that were said to be out racing. All got their cars back.
our sting even had police/state troopers hiding in the bushes for hours in camo.
our sting even had police/state troopers hiding in the bushes for hours in camo.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by NAB18CR »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i bet if they were to start crushing cars in the east coast, there would be less idiots in the meets.</TD></TR></TABLE>
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 743power »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">York is full of ricers and idiots, so this isnt surprising. Everytime I am there, I have people trying to race me.
Where exactly did this happen?</TD></TR></TABLE>
It was at the so-called "OCB" (the Old Country Buffet parking lot). I live south of York and have been to these meets 2-3 times. Lots of nice people just hanging out, but stupid ricers from downtown in the city come and mess it up.
I have not been there once, with my R, that I haven't been asked to race at least 10x... 
Where exactly did this happen?</TD></TR></TABLE>
It was at the so-called "OCB" (the Old Country Buffet parking lot). I live south of York and have been to these meets 2-3 times. Lots of nice people just hanging out, but stupid ricers from downtown in the city come and mess it up.
I have not been there once, with my R, that I haven't been asked to race at least 10x...
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It was at the so-called "OCB" (the Old Country Buffet parking lot). I live south of York and have been to these meets 2-3 times. Lots of nice people just hanging out, but stupid ricers from downtown in the city come and mess it up. I have not been there once, with my R, that I haven't been asked to race at least 10x... </TD></TR></TABLE>
yea I stopped going to meets in the city cause everytime I went there was someone trying to race my ITR.
It was at the so-called "OCB" (the Old Country Buffet parking lot). I live south of York and have been to these meets 2-3 times. Lots of nice people just hanging out, but stupid ricers from downtown in the city come and mess it up.
I have not been there once, with my R, that I haven't been asked to race at least 10x... </TD></TR></TABLE>yea I stopped going to meets in the city cause everytime I went there was someone trying to race my ITR.
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