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adjusted my valves this morning and they are a bit louder now

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Old Oct 21, 2007 | 09:14 AM
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Default adjusted my valves this morning and they are a bit louder now

first off i had a 4tn gen accord manual for reference and i have a 95 coupe ex.

iused this method which was basically the same compared to the manual
http://www.denlorstools.com/ho....html

they are now louder than b4 at start up but the car runs pretty good now compared to earlier. but i have not gone past 4k however just in case.

i just want to know if i did it right or if the LOUDER is normal for these motors.

AND BTW... i know what i am doing mechanically and yes i have edjusted valves plenty of times. i have never had them become louder after an adjustment.
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Old Oct 21, 2007 | 10:36 AM
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Default Re: adjusted my valves this morning and they are a bit louder now (hb_guy)

Try doing it this way: put the feeler gauge in-between the rocker and cam, then tighten the adjusting screw as tight as you can onto the gauge (don't use force or anything, just until it stops turning), then back the screw off about 1/6 to 1/10 of a turn so the gauge just barely slides out. That will give you a more accurate valve lash and most likely quiet it down. I have used that method a few times and it worked out pretty good.
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Old Oct 21, 2007 | 10:45 AM
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Default Re: adjusted my valves this morning and they are a bit louder now (Hawkze_2.3)

yea I've had that problem before also on my 93 accord LX, 92 Civic and 93 integra

seems that the clearence on the valve are more loose with wear

usually it needs like .001-.002 more less then normal
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Old Oct 21, 2007 | 02:37 PM
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gonna go try right now
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Old Oct 21, 2007 | 03:43 PM
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Default Re: adjusted my valves this morning and they are a bit louder now (hb_guy)

ok! just re-adjusted the valves but slightly tighter and not against the cam. worked great. just needed to be a little closer to the lowest spec and she is as quiet as she has been since i bought her last july. HAPPY!
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Old Oct 21, 2007 | 11:04 PM
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Default Re: adjusted my valves this morning and they are a bit louder now (hb_guy)

did you adjust them when the engine was cold?

for a short time after I had them done on my '94 they were noisey until then engine warmed up but after a few hundred miles it was all good
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Old Oct 22, 2007 | 04:45 PM
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always when its cold
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Old Oct 22, 2007 | 06:54 PM
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Default Re: adjusted my valves this morning and they are a bit louder now (hb_guy)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hb_guy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">first off i had a 4tn gen accord manual for reference and i have a 95 coupe ex.
</TD></TR></TABLE>Did you check for the clearance listed on a sticker on your hood in case it's different from the 4th-gen?

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Hawkze_2.3 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Try doing it this way: put the feeler gauge in-between the rocker and cam, ...</TD></TR></TABLE>You've got DOHC engines, right?
Honda normally lists clearance between cam & rocker for DOHC, but they list clearance between valve stem & rocker for their SOHC engines. Make sure you know which spec you have, so you measure in the right place.
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Old Oct 23, 2007 | 07:29 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JimBlake &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
You've got DOHC engines, right?
Honda normally lists clearance between cam & rocker for DOHC, but they list clearance between valve stem & rocker for their SOHC engines. Make sure you know which spec you have, so you measure in the right place.
</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yes, I have a DOHC. Didn't know that about SOHCs, thanks.
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Old Oct 31, 2007 | 04:38 AM
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Default Re: adjusted my valves this morning and they are a bit louder now (Hawkze_2.3)

I know they generally say replace gasket whenever you separate the parts it mates, but how about the valve cover gasket? Is it a must-replace if it's in good shape?

I'd like to check/adjust my buddy's valves, but he doesn't want to shell out the $25+ for the gasket if not *really* needed he says. I know it's a bit paltry, but he's not very handy nor is he good with money (a bad combo )
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Old Oct 31, 2007 | 05:12 AM
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Default Re: adjusted my valves this morning and they are a bit louder now (aka_bigred)

What's the situation? What's the consequences if it leaks after you're done? Base your decision on that.

For me, working on my own car, I don't replace the valve cover gasket every time. I figure if it begins leaking THEN I'll replace it because it's very easy to do. I also KNOW when it was last replaced.

If I was running a shop & working on customers cars, I think I'd replace them every time. A few customers coming back with leaking engines is not a good way to develop a reputation.

How old is the car; more important how old is the VC gasket? Does your buddy understand there's a very good chance it'll begin leaking? Then he'll have to buy it anyway, & you'll have to get the car back & change it. Other than THAT hassle, there's not a great deal of duplicated work. The VC is right up on top.



Modified by JimBlake at 9:34 AM 10/31/2007
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Old Oct 31, 2007 | 04:14 PM
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Replace valve cover gasket with Honda part everytime to save time and leaks!
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