without being specific, the parts list so far:

cams
cam gears
valve train
injectors
throttle body
throttle body gasket kit
intake manifold gasket kit
ectune(d) ecu
fuel pressure regulator
fuel pump
3" sri wonder intake

parts on order:

custom header tailored to my setup

the head will be stock (stock 98spec jdm itr factory port), the block will be 100% bone stock jdm itr. its basically a 100% "bolt on" project

ive spent more than a year with planning, and will finally start the project soon. i have $$$ invested into this project and will be disappointed if i dont break atleast 200whp.

now to my question:

i plan on getting a new oem timing belt and water pump kit. besides that, what do i NEED to replace to make sure i have no leaks or any other problems one might encouter when they try to be "cheap" with their build?


Modified by NAB18CR at 8:14 PM 10/19/2007

 

just use church's dyno

 

Sorry to be so blunt and rude, but your an idiot.

1) How can you state "stock head" and "bolt ons" if you are using cams/valvetrain/etc... That is usually not bolt ons, and far from being a stock head.

2) Do you know how hard it is to make 220whp? Especially on a 1.8L N/A? I have money that you won't make 220 whp.

3) For my future critism, what cams/gears/valve train are you going with? Cams are tailored for specific displacment and compression ratios, you won't make 220 whp with cams suitable for your stock block. And you'll just be overcaming and loose power if you throw in big cams.

 

its been done, but its gonna be tough, trust me i know... see sig

 

^ A bit more blunt than I was going to be, but that's about what I was going to say.

I think he means stock head CASTING, as in, not ported.

220whp is quite a feat on stock bottom end, and stock port. If you at least had higher CR, with some incredible portwork, high quality bolt ons, and components that work together... Hmmm... It might be possible with some ninja crazy tuning.

I don't think you'll hit 220whp.

 

yes, 220whp is a crazy goal on stock head port, 100% bone stock block, but people have been very close.

im not going into any specifics with the bolt ons i have chosen, but i can assure you guys, i didnt cheap out on any. ive spent 1 year researching on what parts to go with, and i have near $4k on this "bolt on" project alone.

tuning will be done by one of the best northeast tuners who i can trust as i have got tuned by him before.

i might not reach 220whp, but im damn confident ill break the 200 mark.

some things to clear up

my motor will NOT be overcammed. i chose to go with one of the best tried and true cams for a bone stock jdm itr motor.

 

i built a 99 type r (acutally used a stock B16 head) motor it made 218whp

JUN stage 2 cams
skunk retainers
skunk gears
bored TB
Supertech flat valves
custom JE pistons, 81.25mm, 12:1 compression
knock off header with 2.5inch collector

thats it. stock rods(modded for pistons), stock crank, stock HG, even the stock b16 head, stock ITR intake manifold

What i would add to your build is a thinner head gasket, and supertech flat black coated valves.
Hopefully you are starting with a JDM block, so you can get almost 11.5:1 compression.
add some big cams, a great header, and great tuner and you might get close

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by zc911 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i built a 99 type r (acutally used a stock B16 head) motor it made 218whp

JUN stage 2 cams
skunk retainers
skunk gears
bored TB
Supertech flat valves
custom JE pistons, 81.25mm, 12:1 compression
knock off header with 2.5inch collector

thats it. stock rods(modded for pistons), stock crank, stock HG, even the stock b16 head, stock ITR intake manifold

What i would add to your build is a thinner head gasket, and supertech flat black coated valves.
Hopefully you are starting with a JDM block, so you can get almost 11.5:1 compression.
add some big cams, a great header, and great tuner and you might get close </TD></TR></TABLE>

Great Tuner... check
Big cams... for a stock block itr, check
Great header... already on order to be made, check

my platform is a bone stock 98spec jdm itr. i dont think theres any other better motor (other than K series) to start on.


Modified by NAB18CR at 8:36 PM 10/19/2007

 

I think an import question is which dyno are you refering to. Church's Dyno or other dyno pack read a lot higher then general DynoJet numbers.

 

my tuner has a dyno dynamics.

exactly how that compares to a dynapack or dynojet, im not sure.

 

I'm interested in seeing the result..Because I'm having a hard time reaching 200whp with built head semi built block.

 

Power is over rated. Times tell all.

I've seen 207whp run times that guys with 230whp can't run. Numbers are over rated, just build it, until you're happy with how fast it is.

All I want out of my build I'm currently doing:

- "200whp+" (i.e. Higher CR, head package, nice bolt ons, etc)
- 4.928FD
- Tuned for all motor, and a seperate tune for a 50 shot (ZOMG SPRAYING A TYPER NO!!1!!1!!! BLASPHEMY!!!!111!!!)
- Have fun on the street
- Have fun on the circuit
- Have fun on the strip

Well rounded builds FTW.

 

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im not going into any specifics with the bolt ons i have chosen, but i can assure you guys, i didnt cheap out on any. ive spent 1 year researching on what parts to go with, and i have near $4k on this "bolt on" project alone.
</TD></TR></TABLE>
Why be so secretive? We need specifics in order to understand.

 

^ Agreed, that's annoying me.

Like it's something we've never seen.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GO-FIGHT-KILL &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Power is over rated. Times tell all.

I've seen 207whp run times that guys with 230whp can't run. Numbers are over rated, just build it, until you're happy with how fast it is.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Agreed. A while back I was making 201 whp (on a DynoJet) in my ITR, and after messing around with a buddy who had an LS on nitirous making 260 whp (on a Dyno Dynamics dyno...I still came up on top. Hard to believe, but very true.

It's not all about horse power numbers. Peak numbers don't mean anything. Power under the curve is much more important. Along with gearing and weight.

 

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Agreed. A while back I was making 201 whp (on a DynoJet) in my ITR, and after messing around with a buddy who had an LS on nitirous making 260 whp (on a Dyno Dynamics dyno...I still came up on top. Hard to believe, but very true.

It's not all about horse power numbers. Peak numbers don't mean anything. Power under the curve is much more important. Along with gearing and weight. </TD></TR></TABLE>

^ And driver.



I just want to have fun... If I wanted to go fast, I wouldn't own a Type-R. That's the way I look at it.

 

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^ And driver.
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Meh, that is understood. If you don't know how to drive, you shouldn't be behind the wheel of an ITR.

 

Yeah, why make this worthless thread in the first place and be secretive about parts??

 

I was in the same boat as you a couple years ago. I wanted to hit 200whp with bolts ons ONLY. Bone stock head and block (only cam gears for tuning)

My parts list:
Comptech Icebox w/ Samco intake tube
Spoon spec TB
Import Builders IM
Outlaw Engineering gasket kit
RC 310's
FPR
UR pulleys (crank, alt, ps)
Toda header
T1R TP and 2.5" catback
cam gears
Hondata s200
Tuned on a Dyno Dynamics dyno

Result: 196whp

I know of only a couple guys hitting 200whp using AEM EMS with only bolt-ons.

Good luck with your build and don't say stock head and include cams and valvetrain

 

stock meaning stock factory port job

 

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The irony!

 

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The irony!</TD></TR></TABLE>

Looks like your related to NAB18CR also?

Show me someone that has put down 220 WHP on a stock block, unported head ITR. And on a dynojet, not church's dynapack.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by neo_ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Show me someone that has put down 220 WHP on a stock block, unported head ITR. And on a dynojet, not church's dynapack. </TD></TR></TABLE>


dynojets read high anyway, i'd be more interested in seeing it on a dyno dynamics, BUT, only doing a back to back with a healthy stock car

 

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hahahaha. he said 220whp, not 240whp

 

update: throttle body waiting to get ported and still waiting for my intake manifold to get back from porting.

teaser: the ported intake manifold will absolutely kill the IB ported IM in all rpms. yes, its been proven on the dyno. how itll do against a itb setup? it should flow the same, if not better.