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Old Jun 20, 2002 | 09:24 AM
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Geeze ...... when is this **** going to end?? An H-T member's ITR was broken into here at work in the parking lot in broad daylight!!! ( a few hours ago)

They managed to get into his car, f up the steering console, and pushed his car (with another car) to the other end of the parking lot. They didn't get away with the car but the car is scrathed up pretty badly......... its hitting too close to home.

Luckily I didn't get my ITR fixed this past weekend or my car would have been parked outside next to him. They would have easily snagged my car next.

****!!! This just solidifies my decision to sell the damn car! **** it!

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Old Jun 20, 2002 | 10:01 AM
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Alright, I never comment on these things because they make me sick, but I'm tired of seeing everyone be like "Sorry man!" "" "**** thieves!" etc.

So what the **** can we do about it? Anything? We need more protection and that means protection by the law. Increased sentences, penalties, etc. Change the way the police and the state handle the situation. If we all care so much why do we just sit back and take it in the ***? Autolock this, lojack that. **** that. How long are we going to spend loads of cash protecting ourselves, only to be unsuccessful, and watch our insurance rates rise and our investments nulled. I'm sure in 5 years it won't be the DC2 chassis that's victimized, the money will move to another car and the same situation will exist.

This is only getting worse and will continue to get worse until SOMEBODY does SOMETHING. So let's do something. A major initiative. How are we going to get the message through to our elected authorities? We need to take it through the system, so let's do it already. Throw out some goddamn ideas, people.

Or are we all too lazy and just tell ourselves we can't have an impact on the situation? Is this a hopeless cause? We live in the USA and in all practicality can't choose what kind of car to drive? ****!

I don't even live in an area that I have to worry, and I'm still pissed.


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Old Jun 20, 2002 | 10:10 AM
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So what the **** can we do about it?
garage at home (locked) and a safe parking deck at work (no tow).

I have thought about placing a bit of C4 around the ecu that is wired up to go off when the trim is removed... (unless a saftey wire is shorted out).... but that has some saftey issues.

I have been lucky.... my insurance has gone down instead of up.

I have thought about talking with the local crime squad about a 'sting' operation. I would gladdly loan my car (with me nearby, watching, wif da c0ps)... but they would laugh in my face.

I am lucky that the major theft rings have not visited close. But that will change soon I feel.

Will
-who may look at a H&K this weekend...
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Old Jun 20, 2002 | 10:14 AM
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Man you're missing the picture. We can't effectively protect ourselves anymore without breaking the law and putting our lives at risk.

This is getting somewhere:

I have thought about talking with the local crime squad about a 'sting' operation. I would gladdly loan my car (with me nearby, watching, wif da c0ps)... but they would laugh in my face.
Think bigger. Think lobbying, calling your congressman, state representatives.



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Old Jun 20, 2002 | 10:17 AM
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Think bigger. Think lobbying, calling your congressman, state representatives.
What if I were to draw and quarter a thief that I caught (in the act on video)... would that bring enough attention?
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Old Jun 20, 2002 | 10:19 AM
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Think bigger. Think lobbying, calling your congressman, state representatives.What if I were to draw and quarter a thief that I caught (in the act on video)... would that bring enough attention?
Only if you beat the **** out of him on camera with some PG-13ish footage and bought lots of network TV commercials with the clip and a scary message to thieves.
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Old Jun 20, 2002 | 10:20 AM
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pay-per-view? (could include R rated stuff that way)
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Old Jun 20, 2002 | 10:20 AM
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Yep there's been enough talking, its time for action!
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Old Jun 20, 2002 | 10:23 AM
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Yep there's been enough talking, its time for action!
Past due. I have no ideas, I'm merely trying to light a fire under everyone's ***. Will likes fire. I like fire. Now how about we brainstorm here?
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Old Jun 20, 2002 | 10:24 AM
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What if I were to draw and quarter a thief that I caught (in the act on video)... would that bring enough attention?
Sounds good to me.
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Old Jun 20, 2002 | 10:24 AM
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Nick, give me a call today or tomorrow. This is horrible that happened to your friend. These thefts are getting rediculous. Sometimes I wish I drove a comaro or something, maybe then I wouldn't be paranoid every time I drive my car. Your best bet is to keep the car in the garage and bring it out on sundays, period.
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Old Jun 20, 2002 | 10:25 AM
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Past due. I have no ideas, I'm merely trying to light a fire under everyone's ***. Will likes fire. I like fire. Now how about we brainstorm here?
People are scum. People will always be scum.

It's the reality of the world we live in today.

Since we can't change the way people are (be realistic), we can only change the ways in which we respond to their behavior.

All we can do is everything in our power to keep our cars safe and out of the hands of thieves.

Reid - who wishes America had harsher punishment, get caught stealing = loose your hands, but the conservatives cry too much...
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Old Jun 20, 2002 | 10:30 AM
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i have an idea. just take out one of the rims by jacking up the car with a jack everytime you have to park somewhere . LOL. j/k.
man it really sux to hear that man. plus, it ******* happened while u were at work?
holy ****.
when is it gonna stop!!!. *******...
good luck in protecting the car.
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Old Jun 20, 2002 | 10:30 AM
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Since we can't change the way people are (be realistic), we can only change the ways in which we respond to their behavior.

All we can do is everything in our power to keep our cars safe and out of the hands of thieves.

Reid - who wishes America had harsher punishment, get caught stealing = loose your hands, but the conservatives cry too much...
That's what I'm getting at. You wish America had harder punishment. So how about we make that happen? With enough voice it's possible. Now getting people off their whining asses in order for that to happen......


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Old Jun 20, 2002 | 10:31 AM
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Or are we all too lazy and just tell ourselves we can't have an impact on the situation? Is this a hopeless cause?
Honestly, I think its more or less a lost cause.

How can we exact any changes that will make thieves think twice? A petition for stricter laws/sentencing guidelines? Sure, lets start one (for every state). Then lets watch the red tape pile up, and maybe, if we're lucky, new laws will be passed. But it will be a LONG time before they are put into place. Even if that's successful, I really dont think it will make these worthless lowlifes blink an eye. Overcrowded prisons/courtsystems ensure that, if caught, they aren't going to have do nearly as much time as they should.

Unfortunately, I really dont think there's anything we can do to attack the root of the problem. If the parts from our cars didn't fit into other Hondas, we wouldn't be having this big of a problem. But, the gov cant tell Honda how to build their cars.

Sting operations? Maybe. Maybe not. That would probably work to get a few punks off the streets, but again, I dont think its much of a deterrent. Honestly dont know what would be a viable deterrent...

In the end... As much security as possible on the car. And if you get the chance to catch one in the act, make sure everyone from his thieving friends to his grandmother can feel the pain hes going thru.

-Super7- who's pissed that this keeps happening and pissed that not much can be done about it
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Old Jun 20, 2002 | 10:32 AM
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Man you're missing the picture. We can't effectively protect ourselves anymore without breaking the law and putting our lives at risk.

This is getting somewhere:


I have thought about talking with the local crime squad about a 'sting' operation. I would gladdly loan my car (with me nearby, watching, wif da c0ps)... but they would laugh in my face.

Think bigger. Think lobbying, calling your congressman, state representatives.
Put some pressure in your local PD. They don't usually bother with car thefts but a phone call inquiring about "leads" will not hurt.
And I agree, comments like "thieves die" "**** thieves" etc. WONT DO ****.
Here is what I have done since my GSR got partially stripped this past April.

1. I park my car in the driveway as a trap at least once a week. I sleep near the garage (family room), dog in the garage, and a Glock near me.
2. I call my local PD about the status of my case. It is likely they don't do **** but at least they know someone wants something done.
3. Be careful who you buy and sell to, especially in meets. I'd rather be paranoid than lose my car.
4. I wrote to two local body shops in my area who are believed to be using/buying stolen parts from stunnas (this info came from a Hayward PD). I did not accuse them but I let them know that the stunnas selling them parts are possibly thieves. I also wrote that if they happen to get a hold of the parts taken from me, to contact me blah blah blah.
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Old Jun 20, 2002 | 10:33 AM
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.... a thief that I caught (in the act on video)... would that bring enough attention?
Agree. Someone has to make an example out of one.
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Old Jun 20, 2002 | 10:35 AM
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Sorry for whose ever H-T ITR this was Thieves are getting really ballzy. It' jast a fricking ITR motor thieves I am sick of these people taking other people's stuff and messing it up. You thieves have no morals and I can't wait for you to be caught and when you do, you proly do it again, unless or laws change for pentalties and stuff.

I dunno if I would sellthe R. I'd proly find a beater to drive around and only drive the R for safer areas :S but then again, what areas are safe It all depends where your car is stored too but if you don't want to worry about this, then maybe sell off the R and have some piece of mind

-aoib0t, who always hears about the Curse of the B-series Mota
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Old Jun 20, 2002 | 10:35 AM
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I'm merely trying to light a fire under everyone's ***. Will likes fire. I like fire. Now how about we brainstorm here?
How much jail time would I get if I killed someone with my bare hands?

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Old Jun 20, 2002 | 10:36 AM
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What type of anti-crime groups can be formed to slow theft down, that have not already been tried? How many of you have a "neighborhood crime watch" and it does absolutely nothing to stop theft/vandalism?
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Old Jun 20, 2002 | 10:37 AM
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That's what I'm getting at. You wish America had harder punishment. So how about we make that happen? With enough voice it's possible. Now getting people off their whining asses in order for that to happen......
Harsher punishment will never happen because criminals have rights.

You should lose all rights the moment you comment certain laws.

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Old Jun 20, 2002 | 10:40 AM
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How much jail time would I get if I killed someone with my bare hands?
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15 to 20 out in 12 with good behavior. If you do it in your house (garage) than you can say he attack you and you defended yourself and most likely get away with it.
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How much jail time would I get if I killed someone with my bare hands?
Just make sure they hit you first.


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Old Jun 20, 2002 | 10:41 AM
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How much jail time would I get if I killed someone with my bare hands?

Will
Just shoot the thief. It is easy to argue that your life is in danger. Remember, all it takes is that they have A CLEAR PATH to you, and that would be enough to argue that you are in fear of your life. If you were a little too late and caught them in your car already, take a shot. It is reasonable to assume that they will run you over. After all, they are scum bags.
In CA at least, they must be in your property and don't shoot in the back nor empty your clip. Garage and driveway is your property. I have discussed this with my brother in laws friend (an SFPD) and he said when burglars get shot, beaten, etc, cops will always find ways to NOT make a case even if it is the "gray" area.
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Old Jun 20, 2002 | 10:42 AM
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Just make sure they hit you first.
What do you mean? He was coming at you with the breaker bar that he got out of your tool box. Thankfully, you were able to stop him in time before he killed you.


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