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Old Oct 14, 2007 | 12:12 PM
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I am doing a rebuild for a friend on a 99 gsr w/ 104k on it. This car is burning 1.5 qts every 1000k. This is odd for a stock unbeaten car owned by a girl. I think the rings just took a dump and the pcv system dumped all the oil mainly to the #4 cyl. causing it to have a tom of crap on the valves on just that cyl. This is my theory, or it could have been beaten w/ nitrous or whatever by the first owner. As for now i am re-ringing it w/ stock size pistons and had a valve job w/ new seals and all new goodies. Will be nice and smoke free afetr this. Ready for another 100k.

new head vs old doo doo head

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old head and bum #4 valves

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Nice fresh hone job


will be done as soon as i get the correct bearings. Another case of why b18c's love oil. Redline Speed Shop for all your Honda and Acura Services.
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Old Oct 14, 2007 | 12:19 PM
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mines been getting through its fair share of oil in the last 6 months. it could do with a bottom end rebuild when i can afford it. in for more pics when they're available
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Old Oct 14, 2007 | 12:28 PM
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REDLINE Speed Shop <--- Seeing my Type-R very soon for this same job.

Ken and Red over at REDLINE do an amazing job, I've done a lot of business with them, and it's been nothing but great work, at great rates. Not one bad review.
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Old Oct 14, 2007 | 12:32 PM
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Tell Ken to rebuild that bucket he owns!
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Old Oct 14, 2007 | 12:40 PM
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Looks good Red


<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RStoR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Tell Ken to rebuild that bucket he owns! </TD></TR></TABLE>

thats the pot calling the kettle black.....


you get your "bucket" back yet?
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Old Oct 14, 2007 | 01:26 PM
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thanx jordie. Good lookin. Ken will be doing his sometime.
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Old Oct 15, 2007 | 12:20 PM
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Red,
Courtney and I are really excited about the "freshly rebuilt integra". We both are tired of adding oil and cleaning the rear bumper every other day. Plus 1 quart a day consumption is really bad on the environment. We are ready to get the dc2 back. For everyone reading.....I will vouch for REDLINE speed shop, they have awesome prices and quick turn around time on major repairs. Thanks
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Old Oct 15, 2007 | 12:33 PM
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ok, i have a question....
i have a 00 b18c5 in my 94 ej1.
it uses TONS of oil... but only when in vtec.
its weird. wtf would cause this?
plus when i warm it up there is carbon rolling out of my exaust. i have a huge amount of carbon on my garage floor. gay.
its stock with dc 4-2-1 header hondata, s100 ,8 lb flywheel + act heavy duty clutch ,hondata im gasket ,jdm sirII intake tube+box blah blah blah.
i figured it couldnt be rings since there is absolutly no power loss.
it put down 170 hp and 124 tq with power steering. yes yes i know that itrs didnt have ps, but i wanted it.
sorry to jack this thread, but nobody knows wtf is wrong with my engine.
but if i never get on it and never get into vtec it wont burn an ounce. crazy, isnt it.
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Old Oct 15, 2007 | 12:52 PM
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^ Type-Rs came with power steering.

And your engine is in the same state as mine, I have a spatter trail behind my exhaust on my garage floor. I burn oil only when it VTEC, even though it doesn't burn blue out the exhaust.

More than likely valveseals. I'm just going to go ahead and do pistons/rings/seals/etc. though, just so it'll run great for another 100,000 miles, because I intend on taking it further than that.
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Old Oct 15, 2007 | 12:53 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by kbizasss &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Red,
Courtney and I are really excited about the "freshly rebuilt integra". We both are tired of adding oil and cleaning the rear bumper every other day. Plus 1 quart a day consumption is really bad on the environment. We are ready to get the dc2 back. For everyone reading.....I will vouch for REDLINE speed shop, they have awesome prices and quick turn around time on major repairs. Thanks </TD></TR></TABLE>

You aren't kidding.
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Old Oct 15, 2007 | 01:01 PM
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Your oil rings can be bad, and yet you will still have compression and not feel any power loss.
I would guess you do consume oil even not in vtec its just not as noticeable.

You should be able to tell whether or not its rings/valves with a leakdown test.
It'll be cheaper to have the head reworked than the block re-ringed, so your lucky if its just valves.

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Old Oct 15, 2007 | 01:04 PM
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i was always under the impression valve stems only lose oil on startup unless they're REALLY bad


besides, you can have good compression and still lose oil past the third control ring.

mine burns shitloads of oil when i really start beating on it. drive it gentle and its nowhere near as bad. yet it went off the compression tester gauge on all 4 cylinders.


just got to budget for a bottom end rebuild at some point in its life. until then, just got to put oil in it
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Old Oct 16, 2007 | 11:19 AM
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well, thanks for the info guys.
i really dont think its the rings, since it only burns it in vtec .
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Old Oct 16, 2007 | 11:42 AM
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As soon as I get another head I'll be doing the same.

Short block is ready to go, it's the head i have to deal with.

I burn a TON of oil right now, like 2 qts between fill ups local and almost 3 on a HWY trip at 85-90MPH. Sucks, I carry oil with me everywhere now.
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Old Oct 16, 2007 | 11:45 AM
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Damn dude, thats a **** ton of oil. You just using **** until the rebuild or are you actually using the good stuff?

Ali
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Old Oct 16, 2007 | 11:48 AM
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Cheapo no name crap!!! The block will be hot tanked during it's next life so I don't care about crap being in there, hell it's like beer... it's only rented for a short time before it leaves...
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Old Oct 16, 2007 | 12:03 PM
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looks like the build is coming nicely,
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Old Oct 16, 2007 | 12:09 PM
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ohh, and btw. im using valvolene 5w30
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Old Oct 16, 2007 | 04:27 PM
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My R b4 the rebuild burned 5 qts going cross country. That equals a dark rear bumper. These motors are prone to oil burning when they are beat on.
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Old Oct 17, 2007 | 09:19 AM
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Too true, my liver knows it.

I'm in the same boat as well, bit 'o spray on start up, puff into VTEC, burns a quart or so every 1K. IT's irritating, especially on a Frost White car. Got a second block I'm building now so hopefully it wont be an issue.
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Old Oct 18, 2007 | 07:49 AM
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FOr guys that don't know
the oem conventional oil used at honda is valvovline 5w20
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Old Oct 18, 2007 | 08:17 AM
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"OEM" Honda oil is produced by Mobil.

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Haha, yea tell me about it lol. Sooner or later...
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Old Oct 18, 2007 | 08:35 AM
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Ready for ONLY another 100K?

&lt;-- 258K on stock 94 B18C engine, never been cracked open, VTEC'd daily, uses less than 1/2 quart in 3,000 miles.
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Old Oct 18, 2007 | 11:39 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PatrickGSR94 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ready for ONLY another 100K?

&lt;-- 258K on stock 94 B18C engine, never been cracked open, VTEC'd daily, uses less than 1/2 quart in 3,000 miles. </TD></TR></TABLE>

&lt;--- 107,000 stock B18C5 engine, never been cracked open, VTEC'd daily, uses less than 3 quarts of oil in 3,000 miles.

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Old Oct 18, 2007 | 02:07 PM
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non-itr specific, but close enough. not like a civic
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