Proposed H23 vtec build...
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Proposed H23 vtec build...
I currently have a mildly built H22. I recently acquired an H23A1 with a blown head and have been researching the H23 vtec build using an H22 block and head with the H23 crank. I also have a 2000 usdm H22 long block laying around. This is my proposed build and i'm looking for feedback.
- '92 jdm H22A block
- H23A1 crank
- 0.25 OS Type S pistons
- P&P H22 head
- Crower stage 3 cams
- RM valvetrain
- Euro-r intake manifold
- 68mm Professional Products throttle body
I have a few questions before i start to move forward with this build.
1. I understand most ppl use the H23 rods, but i plan on using type s pistons which use a floating wrist pin. As far as i know, H23 rods don't use floating wrist pins. I have a spare 2000 long block sitting around (98+ rods use floating wrist pins). I've researched it and understand that the H23 rods are slightly shorter (H23A1 = 5.572) than the 98+ H22 rods (H22A4 = 5.633). Soo... my question is, can i use the 98+ H22 rods with type s pistons? Or should i use the H23 rods and get them machined to accept a floating wrist pin?
2. I've read that using a cam with a lot of duration on an H23 vtec setup is a bad idea. This is a quote taken from another thread:
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=647731
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by "RS_H22" »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Cams with alot of duration wont really be much of a help to you seeing that will will require a decent amount of rpm to see their full potential... A cam such as the Crower 3's need to see somewhere around 8200-8600 to reach their full potebtial... A cam with alot of lift will be needed, your motor will be generating piston speeds at a much higher rate and will need lift to to accomidate to that...</TD></TR></TABLE>
I'm not too keen on buying another set of cams this year, i'd like to keep my crower 3's. I'd like to hear ppl's opinions on this quote and if i'd be wasting my time with these cams in this setup.
Modified by misterpsycho at 6:01 PM 10/13/2007
- '92 jdm H22A block
- H23A1 crank
- 0.25 OS Type S pistons
- P&P H22 head
- Crower stage 3 cams
- RM valvetrain
- Euro-r intake manifold
- 68mm Professional Products throttle body
I have a few questions before i start to move forward with this build.
1. I understand most ppl use the H23 rods, but i plan on using type s pistons which use a floating wrist pin. As far as i know, H23 rods don't use floating wrist pins. I have a spare 2000 long block sitting around (98+ rods use floating wrist pins). I've researched it and understand that the H23 rods are slightly shorter (H23A1 = 5.572) than the 98+ H22 rods (H22A4 = 5.633). Soo... my question is, can i use the 98+ H22 rods with type s pistons? Or should i use the H23 rods and get them machined to accept a floating wrist pin?
2. I've read that using a cam with a lot of duration on an H23 vtec setup is a bad idea. This is a quote taken from another thread:
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=647731
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by "RS_H22" »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Cams with alot of duration wont really be much of a help to you seeing that will will require a decent amount of rpm to see their full potential... A cam such as the Crower 3's need to see somewhere around 8200-8600 to reach their full potebtial... A cam with alot of lift will be needed, your motor will be generating piston speeds at a much higher rate and will need lift to to accomidate to that...</TD></TR></TABLE>
I'm not too keen on buying another set of cams this year, i'd like to keep my crower 3's. I'd like to hear ppl's opinions on this quote and if i'd be wasting my time with these cams in this setup.
Modified by misterpsycho at 6:01 PM 10/13/2007
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Re: Proposed H23 vtec build... (B.J.)
damnit B.J. there you are again with your mouth open.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by misterpsycho »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I currently have a mildly built H22. I recently acquired an H23A1 with a blown head and have been researching the H23 vtec build using an H22 block and head with the H23 crank. I also have a 2000 usdm H22 long block laying around. This is my proposed build and i'm looking for feedback.
- '92 jdm H22A block
- H23A1 crank
- 0.25 OS Type S pistons
- P&P H22 head
- Crower stage 3 cams
- RM valvetrain
- Euro-r intake manifold
- 68mm Professional Products throttle body
I have a few questions before i start to move forward with this build.
1. I understand most ppl use the H23 rods, but i plan on using type s pistons which use a floating wrist pin. As far as i know, H23 rods don't use floating wrist pins. I have a spare 2000 long block sitting around (98+ rods use floating wrist pins). I've researched it and understand that the H23 rods are slightly shorter (H23A1 = 5.572) than the 98+ H22 rods (H22A4 = 5.633). Soo... my question is, can i use the 98+ H22 rods with type s pistons? Or should i use the H23 rods and get them machined to accept a floating wrist pin?
2. I've read that using a cam with a lot of duration on an H23 vtec setup is a bad idea. This is a quote taken from another thread:
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=647731
I'm not too keen on buying another set of cams this year, i'd like to keep my crower 3's. I'd like to hear ppl's opinions on this quote and if i'd be wasting my time with these cams in this setup.
Modified by misterpsycho at 6:01 PM 10/13/2007</TD></TR></TABLE>
copy cat...lol thats the same build i have...waiting on my appointment to get tuned. dont want to risk detonation. good luck
i dont think you are wasting your money man. you get it tuned you are good to go. mgags7 ran all motor on h22 and it made nice power. ill let you know how my **** turns out.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by misterpsycho »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I currently have a mildly built H22. I recently acquired an H23A1 with a blown head and have been researching the H23 vtec build using an H22 block and head with the H23 crank. I also have a 2000 usdm H22 long block laying around. This is my proposed build and i'm looking for feedback.
- '92 jdm H22A block
- H23A1 crank
- 0.25 OS Type S pistons
- P&P H22 head
- Crower stage 3 cams
- RM valvetrain
- Euro-r intake manifold
- 68mm Professional Products throttle body
I have a few questions before i start to move forward with this build.
1. I understand most ppl use the H23 rods, but i plan on using type s pistons which use a floating wrist pin. As far as i know, H23 rods don't use floating wrist pins. I have a spare 2000 long block sitting around (98+ rods use floating wrist pins). I've researched it and understand that the H23 rods are slightly shorter (H23A1 = 5.572) than the 98+ H22 rods (H22A4 = 5.633). Soo... my question is, can i use the 98+ H22 rods with type s pistons? Or should i use the H23 rods and get them machined to accept a floating wrist pin?
2. I've read that using a cam with a lot of duration on an H23 vtec setup is a bad idea. This is a quote taken from another thread:
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=647731
I'm not too keen on buying another set of cams this year, i'd like to keep my crower 3's. I'd like to hear ppl's opinions on this quote and if i'd be wasting my time with these cams in this setup.
Modified by misterpsycho at 6:01 PM 10/13/2007</TD></TR></TABLE>
copy cat...lol thats the same build i have...waiting on my appointment to get tuned. dont want to risk detonation. good luck
i dont think you are wasting your money man. you get it tuned you are good to go. mgags7 ran all motor on h22 and it made nice power. ill let you know how my **** turns out.
Re: Proposed H23 vtec build... (preludefien)
stick with the H23 rods. They don't have to be machined to be floating, you can just have them honed for a proper press fit with the type-s pin and you should be fine. If you want to keep them floating you'll have to have a bushing installed which in my opinion weakens a stock rod.
The H22 rods just plain won't work at all with that combo. Make sure to check your piston to valve clearance as well so you know how far you will be able to adjust your cams later on when you tune.
The H22 rods just plain won't work at all with that combo. Make sure to check your piston to valve clearance as well so you know how far you will be able to adjust your cams later on when you tune.
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Re: Proposed H23 vtec build... (preludefien)
sorry man! i'm not copying you though.... had this all planned out before i even started searching on H-T
but i've read through your thread..... which rods did you use?
i'm not worried about wasting money though.... i have all the parts at my disposal, so it'll be cheap to build
i just wanna make sure that this setup will make decent power and that i won't be let down (due to cams)
i'll have to remember to post up my dyno #'s in the spring so we can compare.... and i'll get to see how good my tuner actually is! LOL
but i've read through your thread..... which rods did you use?
i'm not worried about wasting money though.... i have all the parts at my disposal, so it'll be cheap to build
i just wanna make sure that this setup will make decent power and that i won't be let down (due to cams)
i'll have to remember to post up my dyno #'s in the spring so we can compare.... and i'll get to see how good my tuner actually is! LOL
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Re: Proposed H23 vtec build... (Rosko)
Thanks Rosko!!
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Rosko »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Make sure to check your piston to valve clearance as well so you know how far you will be able to adjust your cams later on when you tune.</TD></TR></TABLE>
yeah... gotta do some math to figure out clearances and to see how thick of a headgasket i'm gonna need.... and then we're gonna clay the motor to be sure
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Rosko »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Make sure to check your piston to valve clearance as well so you know how far you will be able to adjust your cams later on when you tune.</TD></TR></TABLE>
yeah... gotta do some math to figure out clearances and to see how thick of a headgasket i'm gonna need.... and then we're gonna clay the motor to be sure
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Re: Proposed H23 vtec build... (misterpsycho)
You should be fine with a stock headgasket but it never hurts to check. The only time I ran into problems was with 1mm oversized valves.
If you need a thicker gasket get ahold of Cometic, they can make them in any thickness you need.
If you need a thicker gasket get ahold of Cometic, they can make them in any thickness you need.
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Re: Proposed H23 vtec build... (Rosko)
yeah.... i just wanna be SURE that my clearances are good...
and i wanna make sure i build this properly, don't want the damn thing to blow up on the dyno! LOL
if you've got any other tips/suggestions from problems you may have ran into, i'm open to hearing them
anyone have any comments around my cams with this setup??
and i wanna make sure i build this properly, don't want the damn thing to blow up on the dyno! LOL
if you've got any other tips/suggestions from problems you may have ran into, i'm open to hearing them
anyone have any comments around my cams with this setup??
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Re: Proposed H23 vtec build... (::NirVTEC::)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ::NirVTEC:: »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Accusations of copying builds..... 
Theres only a few ways to make worthwhile power with these motors.....
Ditch those Crower3's....
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should do pretty well with the amount of compression and stroke he is going to be running.....
Theres only a few ways to make worthwhile power with these motors.....
Ditch those Crower3's....
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should do pretty well with the amount of compression and stroke he is going to be running.....
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Re: Proposed H23 vtec build... (98vtec)
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should do pretty well with the amount of compression and stroke he is going to be running.....</TD></TR></TABLE>
You know me....I am the Anti-Crower after what happened to my friend. Spend $K's and $K's on a motor to have a cam break and eat it alive.....then the customer svc BS after that...... Not my money! 
Anyway.....the Dyno test I saw awhile ago had the Crower3's making less than the Pro2's and JUNs.....
Maybe BLOX? "SKUNKED" has been raving about them.....
should do pretty well with the amount of compression and stroke he is going to be running.....</TD></TR></TABLE>
You know me....I am the Anti-Crower after what happened to my friend. Spend $K's and $K's on a motor to have a cam break and eat it alive.....then the customer svc BS after that......
Not my money! Anyway.....the Dyno test I saw awhile ago had the Crower3's making less than the Pro2's and JUNs.....
Maybe BLOX? "SKUNKED" has been raving about them.....
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Re: Proposed H23 vtec build... (::NirVTEC::)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ::NirVTEC:: »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Accusations of copying builds.....
Theres only a few ways to make worthwhile power with these motors.....
Ditch those Crower3's....
</TD></TR></TABLE>
yeah go with Skunk2!
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Rosko »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> If you want to keep them floating you'll have to have a bushing installed which in my opinion weakens a stock rod.
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IMO.... you only need to add the bushing if it is on a daily driver motor. I actually made my h23 rods a floating style w/o the bushing and it seems to be okay. The machine shop i go to did it that way and i just flew with it. Good luck with the build!
Theres only a few ways to make worthwhile power with these motors.....
Ditch those Crower3's....
</TD></TR></TABLE>
yeah go with Skunk2!
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Rosko »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> If you want to keep them floating you'll have to have a bushing installed which in my opinion weakens a stock rod.
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IMO.... you only need to add the bushing if it is on a daily driver motor. I actually made my h23 rods a floating style w/o the bushing and it seems to be okay. The machine shop i go to did it that way and i just flew with it. Good luck with the build!
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Re: Proposed H23 vtec build... (::NirVTEC::)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ::NirVTEC:: »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Accusations of copying builds.....
Theres only a few ways to make worthwhile power with these motors.....
Ditch those Crower3's....
</TD></TR></TABLE>
i'd love to be able to dump of bunch of money into the motor this year, but it's not what i want to do.... i got other stuff i wanna buy/pay off over the winter, so i'm not really looking into buying cams
maybe next year i'll get into some S2 Pro1's or 2's
but knowing me, i might just end up getting too excited and dumping more money than i want to into it.... i tend to do that a lot! it's no wonder i'm always broke!! LOL i'm sure you guys know what that's all about though!
we'll see where the money takes me this winter
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ::NirVTEC:: »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Anyway.....the Dyno test I saw awhile ago had the Crower3's making less than the Pro2's and JUNs.....</TD></TR></TABLE>
do you have a link to this dyno test? i'd love to check it out....
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by AllMotorRandy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">IMO.... you only need to add the bushing if it is on a daily driver motor. I actually made my h23 rods a floating style w/o the bushing and it seems to be okay. The machine shop i go to did it that way and i just flew with it. Good luck with the build! </TD></TR></TABLE>
this won't be a daily driver motor.... it's going into my drag car
thanks for all the info and input guys!!
Theres only a few ways to make worthwhile power with these motors.....
Ditch those Crower3's....
</TD></TR></TABLE>
i'd love to be able to dump of bunch of money into the motor this year, but it's not what i want to do.... i got other stuff i wanna buy/pay off over the winter, so i'm not really looking into buying cams
maybe next year i'll get into some S2 Pro1's or 2's
but knowing me, i might just end up getting too excited and dumping more money than i want to into it.... i tend to do that a lot! it's no wonder i'm always broke!! LOL i'm sure you guys know what that's all about though!
we'll see where the money takes me this winter
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ::NirVTEC:: »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Anyway.....the Dyno test I saw awhile ago had the Crower3's making less than the Pro2's and JUNs.....</TD></TR></TABLE>
do you have a link to this dyno test? i'd love to check it out....
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by AllMotorRandy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">IMO.... you only need to add the bushing if it is on a daily driver motor. I actually made my h23 rods a floating style w/o the bushing and it seems to be okay. The machine shop i go to did it that way and i just flew with it. Good luck with the build! </TD></TR></TABLE>
this won't be a daily driver motor.... it's going into my drag car
thanks for all the info and input guys!!
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Re: Proposed H23 vtec build... (misterpsycho)
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do you have a link to this dyno test? i'd love to check it out....
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Nope...
I sure wish I did. I could dig up pics of the HAVOC the Crower3's did to my friends H22A though Im sure! 
Beautifully built H22A4 with ~12:1cr!...my friend lost THE WILL after the incident and sold it all....He now drives a 2000 Blazer!
do you have a link to this dyno test? i'd love to check it out....
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Nope...
I sure wish I did. I could dig up pics of the HAVOC the Crower3's did to my friends H22A though Im sure! Beautifully built H22A4 with ~12:1cr!...my friend lost THE WILL after the incident and sold it all....He now drives a 2000 Blazer!
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Re: Proposed H23 vtec build... (::NirVTEC::)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ::NirVTEC:: »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Nope... I sure wish I did. I could dig up pics of the HAVOC the Crower3's did to my friends H22A though Im sure!
Beautifully built H22A4 with ~12:1cr!...my friend lost THE WILL after the incident and sold it all....He now drives a 2000 Blazer! </TD></TR></TABLE>
i think i'd rather not see the carnage..... ignorance is bliss right now LOL
i'm not too worried about blowing it up tho.... i've got a bunch of extra parts laying around that would be useful for a new build IF i had to rebuild
i mean, IF it did blow up i'd probably curl up into the fetal position for a few days... but i'd eventually get over it and start to rebuild
it's all part of the game, right?
give double condolences to your buddy for me...... one, for the blown motor, and two, because he now drives a Blazer!
Nope...
I sure wish I did. I could dig up pics of the HAVOC the Crower3's did to my friends H22A though Im sure! Beautifully built H22A4 with ~12:1cr!...my friend lost THE WILL after the incident and sold it all....He now drives a 2000 Blazer!
</TD></TR></TABLE>i think i'd rather not see the carnage..... ignorance is bliss right now LOL
i'm not too worried about blowing it up tho.... i've got a bunch of extra parts laying around that would be useful for a new build IF i had to rebuild
i mean, IF it did blow up i'd probably curl up into the fetal position for a few days... but i'd eventually get over it and start to rebuild
it's all part of the game, right?
give double condolences to your buddy for me...... one, for the blown motor, and two, because he now drives a Blazer!
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Re: Proposed H23 vtec build... (misterpsycho)
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i think i'd rather not see the carnage..... ignorance is bliss right now LOL
i'm not too worried about blowing it up tho.... i've got a bunch of extra parts laying around that would be useful for a new build IF i had to rebuild
i mean, IF it did blow up i'd probably curl up into the fetal position for a few days... but i'd eventually get over it and start to rebuild
it's all part of the game, right?
give double condolences to your buddy for me...... one, for the blown motor, and two, because he now drives a Blazer! </TD></TR></TABLE>
Hahahaha.....I like you! An attitude like that tells me youre going to have nothing but FUN with this project!!!! Rock on!
As far as the blown motor.....thats what happens when you Go For Broke on a car!
He lives in Wisconsin so the Blazer fits right in!
i think i'd rather not see the carnage..... ignorance is bliss right now LOL
i'm not too worried about blowing it up tho.... i've got a bunch of extra parts laying around that would be useful for a new build IF i had to rebuild
i mean, IF it did blow up i'd probably curl up into the fetal position for a few days... but i'd eventually get over it and start to rebuild
it's all part of the game, right?
give double condolences to your buddy for me...... one, for the blown motor, and two, because he now drives a Blazer!
</TD></TR></TABLE>Hahahaha.....I like you!
An attitude like that tells me youre going to have nothing but FUN with this project!!!! Rock on! As far as the blown motor.....thats what happens when you Go For Broke on a car!
He lives in Wisconsin so the Blazer fits right in!
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Re: Proposed H23 vtec build... (preludefien)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by preludefien »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">lol i was just ******* with you. i wasnt serious. these builds are becoming a lot more popular. dude you will be fine with those cams. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Prove it and issue the warranty.....
Crower didn't pay for any of the damage, they just offered him new Cams.....Just what he wanted, a NEWER IMPROVED version of the cam that destroyed his motor!
Prove it and issue the warranty.....
Crower didn't pay for any of the damage, they just offered him new Cams.....Just what he wanted, a NEWER IMPROVED version of the cam that destroyed his motor!
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Re: Proposed H23 vtec build... (preludefien)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by preludefien »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">lol i was just ******* with you. i wasnt serious. these builds are becoming a lot more popular. dude you will be fine with those cams. </TD></TR></TABLE>
yeah, i know, i didn't take any offense
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Prove it and issue the warranty.....
Crower didn't pay for any of the damage, they just offered him new Cams.....Just what he wanted, a NEWER IMPROVED version of the cam that destroyed his motor! </TD></TR></TABLE>
well, i ran these cams this summer without any problems... so we'll see how i do with more compression
i'll for sure post up the dyno sheet once it's tuned in the spring.... and if it blows up, i'll make sure to take plenty of pictures so you can all see the kinda damage i was able to do
yeah, i know, i didn't take any offense
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Prove it and issue the warranty.....
Crower didn't pay for any of the damage, they just offered him new Cams.....Just what he wanted, a NEWER IMPROVED version of the cam that destroyed his motor! </TD></TR></TABLE>
well, i ran these cams this summer without any problems... so we'll see how i do with more compression
i'll for sure post up the dyno sheet once it's tuned in the spring.... and if it blows up, i'll make sure to take plenty of pictures so you can all see the kinda damage i was able to do
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Re: Proposed H23 vtec build... (misterpsycho)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ::NirVTEC:: »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Prove it and issue the warranty.....
Crower didn't pay for any of the damage, they just offered him new Cams.....Just what he wanted, a NEWER IMPROVED version of the cam that destroyed his motor! </TD></TR></TABLE>
hey i dropped a crower cam from about 1ft on carpet and it broke in 3 places. to crower
Prove it and issue the warranty.....
Crower didn't pay for any of the damage, they just offered him new Cams.....Just what he wanted, a NEWER IMPROVED version of the cam that destroyed his motor! </TD></TR></TABLE>
hey i dropped a crower cam from about 1ft on carpet and it broke in 3 places.
to crower
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Re: Proposed H23 vtec build... (AllMotorRandy)
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hey i dropped a crower cam from about 1ft on carpet and it broke in 3 places. to crower</TD></TR></TABLE>
Hahahaha......CRAZY!^^^^^^
and my Skunks made it all the way to Asian in a crappy box with no issues!
hey i dropped a crower cam from about 1ft on carpet and it broke in 3 places.
to crower</TD></TR></TABLE>Hahahaha......CRAZY!^^^^^^
and my Skunks made it all the way to Asian in a crappy box with no issues!
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Re: Proposed H23 vtec build... (AllMotorRandy)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by AllMotorRandy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hey i dropped a crower cam from about 1ft on carpet and it broke in 3 places. to crower</TD></TR></TABLE>
you're kidding, right?
to crower</TD></TR></TABLE>you're kidding, right?
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Re: Proposed H23 vtec build... (misterpsycho)
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Prove it and issue the warranty.....
Crower didn't pay for any of the damage, they just offered him new Cams.....Just what he wanted, a NEWER IMPROVED version of the cam that destroyed his motor! </TD></TR></TABLE>
dude seriously get your head out your ***. who cares that your friend blew his **** up. your crying a ******* river for him. i feel your pain(NOT). i myself dont care. **** happens. you deal with it and get over it.
Prove it and issue the warranty.....
Crower didn't pay for any of the damage, they just offered him new Cams.....Just what he wanted, a NEWER IMPROVED version of the cam that destroyed his motor! </TD></TR></TABLE>
dude seriously get your head out your ***. who cares that your friend blew his **** up. your crying a ******* river for him. i feel your pain(NOT). i myself dont care. **** happens. you deal with it and get over it.
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Re: Proposed H23 vtec build... (preludefien)
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dude seriously get your head out your ***. who cares that your friend blew his **** up. your crying a ******* river for him. i feel your pain(NOT). i myself dont care. he was one in a million. **** happens. you deal with it and get over it. </TD></TR></TABLE>
One in a Million?!?!?!?! you sir need to remove thy head from thy ***!.....
If youre running C3's and don't know this well......youre about as dumb as I thought.
There was a bad batch......but of course you knew that right? (NOT)!!
Quit trying to start ****.......
Keep going........youre the one looking dumber by the second.
******* 94% 2006 Noob.....show some respect bitch!
dude seriously get your head out your ***. who cares that your friend blew his **** up. your crying a ******* river for him. i feel your pain(NOT). i myself dont care. he was one in a million. **** happens. you deal with it and get over it.
</TD></TR></TABLE>One in a Million?!?!?!?! you sir need to remove thy head from thy ***!.....
If youre running C3's and don't know this well......youre about as dumb as I thought.
There was a bad batch......but of course you knew that right?
(NOT)!!Quit trying to start ****.......
Keep going........youre the one looking dumber by the second.
******* 94% 2006 Noob.....show some respect bitch!