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Old Oct 11, 2007 | 06:56 PM
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do you use a FMIC with a roots/twin-screw supercharger? its blowing my mind. I know they were able to use intercoolers on GM S/C vehicles like the GTP but it was more like under the actual blower. Redshift is advertising an FMIC kit for the comptech and jackson s/c guys.
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"This kit will allow your Comptech or Jackson Racing (Moss Motors) supercharger kit to be intercooled. Includes the RedShift Manifold, Adapter Baseplate, 2.5" Tubing, 8x24x3" Intercooler (rated to 450 hp), Fast Response Intake Air Temperature Sensor, IAT sensor plug and play harness, and all required hardware. Many intercoolers require modification of your front bumper for clearance."
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Old Oct 11, 2007 | 07:28 PM
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wouldent the air coming out the SC go into the FMIC and into the TB? what is it you asking ?
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Old Oct 11, 2007 | 07:34 PM
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its technically an aftercooler.

here's an example on a cobalt.


(408) Oil Indicator Tube O-ring
(409) Oil Indicator Tube
(410) Oil Indicator Tube Bolt
(411) Oil Indicator O-ring
(412) Oil Indicator
(500) Intake Manifold Gasket
(502) Intake Manifold
(503) Throttle Body Seal
(504) Throttle Body
(506) Throttle Body Bolt
(518) Intercooler O-ring
(519) Intercooler Washer
(520) Intercooler Washer
(521) Intercooler O-ring
(522) Intercooler Cover Gasket
(523) Intercooler
(524) Intercooler Cover
(525) Intercooler Cover Bolt
(526) Intercooler Cover Seal

(527) Supercharger Gasket
(528) Supercharger
(529) Supercharger Bolt
(711) Map Sensor
(726) Supercharger Inlet Pressure Sensor
(727) Map Sensor Bracket
(728) Map Sensor Bracket Bolt
(749) Map Sensor Bolt

can you post a link. I'd like to check it out.


Modified by exhaust_note at 4:44 AM 10/12/2007
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Old Oct 11, 2007 | 08:30 PM
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Redshift is a bunch of rednecks that don't know ****
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Old Oct 11, 2007 | 10:12 PM
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^that seriously made me lmao
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Old Oct 11, 2007 | 10:19 PM
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yea except if you knew anything about this type of S/C is that rather than pushing air through the throttlebody it pulls air from the throttlebody. so do you recirculate it? gg. go play with your hot wheels.
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Old Oct 11, 2007 | 10:23 PM
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lol. yea... people keep saying how great it is because they are spending all this time on it.... yet the only testing vehicle they have for it is an RSX...
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Old Oct 11, 2007 | 10:32 PM
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I totally undestand the GM design... but if you are modifying your bumper for the redshift kit... i'm assuming they are trying something ive never seen or heard of before.
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Old Oct 11, 2007 | 10:42 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by I:_Drive &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">lol. yea... people keep saying how great it is because they are spending all this time on it.... yet the only testing vehicle they have for it is an RSX...</TD></TR></TABLE>

I wouldn't be so quick to bash them before they release the product. From my limited knowledge (yes, I can admit it's very limited) the way they're going about it makes sense. Since the SI cannot be tuned directly, why not tune an RSX and then use that as a guide on the SI?
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Old Oct 11, 2007 | 10:51 PM
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I'd love to argue but for some reason all I can think about is wishing I didnt live in florida because i'm pretty sure my home town is getting ready to put down ice at the new rink no hockey for me this year.
way off topic... but being from minnesota you have to half understand what im talkin about.
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Old Oct 20, 2007 | 05:13 PM
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our questions are answered.. just found this http://redshift.informe.com/sep-11-dt73.html


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Old Oct 20, 2007 | 05:24 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by I:_Drive &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">lol. yea... people keep saying how great it is because they are spending all this time on it.... yet the only testing vehicle they have for it is an RSX...</TD></TR></TABLE>

and a 2002 at that


also people should be weary about any tuning shop that has no history
hell even those clowns down in florida with All Jap making the turbo kits for the 06+ that everyone jumped on fast

have contacted greddy since they are having issues with the hondata flash tuning

not all that glitters is gold and people need to see BEHIND THE SCENES before they plunk down the $$$$

the only reason i got my comptech Sc was the fact of their history in the tuning field & that the person that was their TEST SUBJECT is a member here

that means alot when you can read how much work is going into something AND you get results.


But don't take my advice


Keep in mind that AEM has something coming out for the 06si that would be beneficial for forced induction
but patience is a virtue... if you want limited tuning you buy an Si
if you want fully blown madness and thats all that matters go buy an rsx.

To beat around the bush with pictures of CAD and how parts will look in XX amount of months and youtube videos zooming on side streets in the rain.... doesn't really get me going & won't get my business.
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Old Oct 20, 2007 | 05:41 PM
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so far comptech is getting my vote... i ordered the kit in hopes that something either comptech going stage 2 or a tuning solution will become available. I like the numbers ive seen from it even with a shorty header with a cat. I'm going to roll without a cat and see how much of a difference there is
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Old Oct 20, 2007 | 05:45 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by I:_Drive &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so far comptech is getting my vote... i ordered the kit in hopes that something either comptech going stage 2 or a tuning solution will become available. I like the numbers ive seen from it even with a shorty header with a cat. I'm going to roll without a cat and see how much of a difference there is </TD></TR></TABLE>

So Comptech is back in business??
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Old Oct 20, 2007 | 05:47 PM
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has been for awhile. You can order their stuff from Corsport. just because their webpage is under construction doesnt mean they are gone.
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Old Oct 21, 2007 | 04:13 PM
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X... would you be talking about the AEM F/IC? As far as I know they are working on the software to make it work. the unit itself is working but it only has the ability to control the MAF sensor or the MAP sensor not both. so they needed to add that.
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Old Oct 21, 2007 | 04:57 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by I:_Drive &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">has been for awhile. You can order their stuff from Corsport. just because their webpage is under construction doesnt mean they are gone.</TD></TR></TABLE>

It's not cause of their website......someone posted a thread a long time ago about Comptech going out of business.

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Old Oct 22, 2007 | 05:17 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RICO_ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

It's not cause of their website......someone posted a thread a long time ago about Comptech going out of business.

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https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=2019445

^^ a few months ago this thread came up about comptech bein' back in business


I know LHT modifies JRSC to accept an air to water intercooler sandwiched between the manifold and SC. That makes a little more sense to me than a FMIC on a roots type blower.
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Old Oct 22, 2007 | 05:19 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by I:_Drive &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">X... would you be talking about the AEM F/IC? As far as I know they are working on the software to make it work. the unit itself is working but it only has the ability to control the MAF sensor or the MAP sensor not both. so they needed to add that.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yes. Also keep in mind that AJP wants the Emanage so that might be another options as well.
Even AEM has it slated as a FUTURE RELEASE so it coiuld be 4 yrs before its released BUT at least they don't say 2 months and continue to extend it.

and the CURRENT models have that MAP/MAF function, i'm sure that the future models (civic si) would have both capabilities or it would be pretty much useless.
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Old Oct 22, 2007 | 09:14 AM
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yea i found a post from them from july that said it would be a month... haha. ill try to find the link again. i would guess that we might see something after sema? maybe they holding out?
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