alright, this is the story ...

iwentto trade my ef hatch with a d16z6 5spd in it with a guy in vancouver to get one of my old cars back...

i drove the entie 300 miles in 5th gear no problem what so ever no big deal blah blah i ge tere turn of the car he gets there we do paper work all that 2 days later he calls me up and goes dude this car has no 5th gear i said what drove there in 5th gear he takes it all apart and tells me its a 23 spline std tranny, now how is it possible that i drove there in 5th gear and my buddy who had the had before me for 2 years drive it everyday of hs life it had a 5th gear and now its only 4 ger tranny 23 spline ???? any thought??

 

 

STD transmissions did not have 23 splines. If you can't see that this guy is trying to pull something, you are very silly.

YOU know that YOU drove there in 5th gear, therefore the car had a 5-speed before you traded it. Tell the guy to screw off and quit trying to fleece you.

/thread

 

Wisco has it. You are being scammed.

 

no no no, me and his dude are homies...he aint trying to scam me or nothing we are just trying to figure it out... because i drve there in 5th but there is no 5th now... like u can put it into 5th but when clutch is out it just revs like neutral no grinds or nothing like its half way it but it just revs....

but yeah he not trying to get his car back or anything or money we are jst trying to figure out whats going on ...

sorry for spelling on anything keyboard is being whack !!!

 

So there is physically a fifth gear but it's not engaging? It sounded like he was saying there were only four gears in the case.

Has he inspected the bearings / synchros / shift forks & rods?

 

he said he tore it all apart one day and found nothing wrong he said it was a 23 spline...std tranny or whatever... ]

i used to work at a performance warehouse and my buddy that I got the car from before i gve it to my other friend bought a clutch from me for a d16z6 ( si ) tranny stge 2 blh blah blah... and we put it in and it worked for about 2000 miles then he gave the car to me and i gave it to him ...

i dont know if a 5 spd tranny clutch is diffrent from a4 spd tranny clutch ( trannys and me dont mix ) but that tranny had the clutch the d16z6 calls for

 

No, you match the clutch to the number of splines on the transmission and its year (diff sizes), the D16Z6 trans has 21 just like all the 89-91 L3 transmissions.

Your friend must have mis-counted the splines. And no, the STD 4-speed trans has 21 just like the other 5-speed ones, provided it's an 89 or later.

Another easy way to tell if it's indeed a D16Z6 trans is to get the trans. code from the case.

 

alright so do 4 speed transmission have a 5th gear slot or no slot?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EF_RICE &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">alright so do 4 speed transmission have a 5th gear slot or no slot?

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Nope.

4spd STD mainshaft, 2 gears (1,3):



5spd Si (D16Z6) mainshaft, 3 gears (1,3,5):

 

ok you guys, im the one he traded. when i got it the camber was horrible so when i went to the wrecking yard to pick up si/dx hub and everything and got it installed. my axel would not go in. si/dx are the same and std are different. there is no way anyone is going to use std hubs on a si or dx tranny period.

but what yanks my chain is standard trannys do not have a fifth gear. but my tranny engages into 5th, but its like a neutral...and std axels are 23 spline

 

and yea brady, im scamming you lol what am i tryin to scam you for. i havent asked you for anything hahahahaha

 

i use std hubs with an SI tranny.

 

haha thats what i said homie.... i kno your not trying to scam me...use a homie why would u do that... never crossed my mind

but i guess the way i exlained it it makes sense that they would think that ...

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by garageEF &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i use std hubs with an SI tranny.</TD></TR></TABLE><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by garageEF &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i use std hubs with an SI tranny.</TD></TR></TABLE>

jeeze, i have tried more then 10 times. you positive they were si?si axels will NOT fit in standard hubs. and i PLEAD TO FIF

 

All inboard joints are the same on all axles that fit these transmissions. The hub sides are different on STDs and HFs versus Si/DX.

If you want to run Si axles, get Si hubs. Otherwise, just keep the STD hubs and use STD axles. You can run an Si or DX trans on an STD / HF but you have to use the axles that match the STD/HFhubs.

And sorry about the spline thing, I thought you were referring to the number of splines on the mainshaft, not the axles.

Hopefully that helps.

As far as the trans not wanting to go into fifth, maybe it's a shift linkage issue? is it difficult to get into first or third? have you opened the trans up to take a look yet?

 

no i have not had time to tear it apart. it shifts like butter. has no problems at all besides that 5th gear situation....i might be tradeing some stuff for a si tranny

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jdminthemakin &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> there is no way anyone is going to use std hubs on a si or dx tranny period.

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bullshit.

i had a 91 STD 4 speed car, bought an SI trans, and the axles went right in perfectly. lasted for years too.

 

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bullshit.

i had a 91 STD 4 speed car, bought an SI trans, and the axles went right in perfectly. lasted for years too. </TD></TR></TABLE>


i know i was wrong. but if you were to try that with si axels? they would not fit in the hubs

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hehe. sorry about the bullshit part.

 

lol i know. if i dont call you a ******* or a ******, it means i dont like you ******