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Old Oct 8, 2007 | 05:59 PM
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wanted to know what cams would work best for this set-up. (dd car street use mostly)
stock b17 bottom end
mugen headgasket
mild p&p
megan 4-1 header
bc echaust
ebay intake
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gude tb
omni test pipe
aem alt pulley. any help would be really appreciated............
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Old Oct 8, 2007 | 06:01 PM
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skunk pro stage 2's are money. never heard of a b17 though... or im having a HUGE brain fart. lol
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Old Oct 8, 2007 | 06:07 PM
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b17 is 92-93 gsr. too big of cams for near stock cr
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Old Oct 8, 2007 | 06:10 PM
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ooo duh..lol. too big for cr? whats cr? i know i can run pro stage 2's with my b16 why not in your b17? you could just run the skunk 2 street stage 2's. reallly mild though.
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Old Oct 8, 2007 | 06:11 PM
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compression ratio. b17 is lower than b16
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Old Oct 8, 2007 | 06:12 PM
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ooo... i figured thats what you meant but wanted to make sure. what is the CR on the b17? im not too sure on cams for those motors... im actually not very familiar with them at all.
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Old Oct 8, 2007 | 06:13 PM
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am interested to i got one in a 96 civic with skunk 2 manifold!!
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Old Oct 8, 2007 | 06:14 PM
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the b16 and b17 head are the same!!
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Old Oct 8, 2007 | 06:16 PM
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heads r the same but the bottom end isnt. b17 is 9:5:1 and b16 is 10:4:1 i think
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Old Oct 8, 2007 | 06:19 PM
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well idk... look up some integra gs cam applications and specs and compare.... i dont have a strait application coming to mind. orrrr you could just bump the CR up and run bigger cams.
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Old Oct 8, 2007 | 06:22 PM
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go with OEM cams
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Old Oct 8, 2007 | 06:24 PM
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from b18c1 or type r??
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Old Oct 8, 2007 | 07:21 PM
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go wit type r cams, to get the most out of the cams install type r or after market valve springs and retainers! If the moneys rite get titainum valves!
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Old Oct 8, 2007 | 07:31 PM
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ITR or CTR and maybe if you can afford some pistons throw some b16 either JDM p30 or USDM pr3...
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Old Oct 8, 2007 | 07:32 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by zdalunatic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">go wit type r cams, to get the most out of the cams install type r or after market valve springs and retainers! If the moneys rite get titainum valves! </TD></TR></TABLE>

titanuim valves wont be needed

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 93egB16A &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">skunk pro stage 2's are money. never heard of a b17 though... or im having a HUGE brain fart. lol</TD></TR></TABLE>

skunk2 pro2s are much too aggressive for a stock bottom end. A higher compression ratio is definitely needed to make any good use of those cams.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by chuisek9 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">from b18c1 or type r??</TD></TR></TABLE>

'00-01 ITR cams or CTR cams will be your best bet for an OEM build
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Old Oct 8, 2007 | 08:17 PM
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Default Re: b17 build (iVteC_PoWeR)

someone also recomonded sk2 stage 1's too. what do you think of that with a stock cr?(iVteC_PoWeR)
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Old Oct 8, 2007 | 08:22 PM
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Skunk2 Stage 1 cams are made for stock CR and you should have more of a gain than if you went with CTR/ITR cams. Theyre great for a mild build. If you do ever want to tear the motor apart later and bump up the compression than you can just go with Skunk2 Stage 2s now. It might be overcamming your motor a bit but it shouldnt be too bad.
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Old Oct 8, 2007 | 08:28 PM
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itr/ctr
skunk2 stage 1
buddy club spec 3

each with appropriate valvetrain
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Old Oct 8, 2007 | 08:42 PM
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sweet. i think ill go with the s2 s1's. thanks for the input.

Quote, originally posted by Bobismoi »
Yes, the JDM 2.0L B18C5 is VERY rare. When I found it I had the complete front clip shipped over from Japan... just to make sure I would have all the little bits and pieces


soooooooo funny. everytime i see this i laugh my *** off!!! ^^^
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Old Oct 8, 2007 | 08:46 PM
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You can also look into BC3+ cams. They give you a great load of midrange and theres a debate on those vs skunk2 stage 1 cams. Both are made for mild setups but focus on different points in the powerband.
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Old Oct 9, 2007 | 12:37 AM
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i was thinking of those too. they do add a good amount of midrange power wich is where it is really needed on a b17/16. ind im sure it doesnt take anything away from the top end. but i like the skunks too cause the crazy pull up top. gona b a tough decision
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Old Oct 9, 2007 | 12:44 AM
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really good repsonses from ivtecpower my friend threw some crower stage 2's in a stock b16a2 and it pulled hard from 7k-redline....definitely overcammed it
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Old Oct 9, 2007 | 02:31 AM
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well if you are giong to dd it, dont get too crazy with the cams/power, remember you still want to be able to drive through the winter and get decent gas mileage. i have ITR cams and an ITR valvetrain in my ls/vtec in my car, car pulls decent up until about 5200 when vtec crosses over, then around 6000 it really starts pulilng like a motehr ****** (to the point where my head is in the back of my seat O.O) but stock bottom end = shift at 7.5k lol so i cant get all the benefits, it pulls super heard up to 7.5k and im sure it would make power up to 8 atleast (but bottom end would deffinetly give out).

i sayput some ITR cams in, vtec sounds great, they are a great cam and can show good gains. ITR cams will give you a fun dd and it wont be too aggressive and you will be able to dd your car every day. dont forget to get this thing tuned good, go with something like hondata. im only on a basemap but hoping to get tuned soon.

Basically i say ITR cams because i have them in my car and i love them. just my $0.02 though.
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Old Oct 9, 2007 | 02:54 AM
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itll be slow............all i see here are bolt ons onto a rare engine. but have fun i guess, i say anything listed, ctr,itr or skunk 2 stg 1
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Old Oct 9, 2007 | 10:12 AM
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did you not read the first post?? daily driver. dont want something crazy just want something a little fun with a little more power.
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