NO2 Questions...
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I would just like some general info on running a dry nitrous kit into a new model sportbike. I mainly would like some info from people who have done this personally or are knowledgeable on the subject. How well does engine integrity maintain itself when running a dry NO2 kit? I basically just want to make sure that I won't be seriously damaging the engine by running nitrous. I know that constant use is bad for the engine but if you spray nitrous maybe like once a month orso how long can you expect the engine to last etc. Thank you.
N02 is "Nitric Oxide" you are thinking of N2O.
33.3% Oxygen per unit as opposed to 19-21% found in normal ambient air. Nitric Oxide is the stuff you buy from GNC to get BUFF!!!! so i make the mistake all the time to I wanted to call someone out on it...
***you cant really run dry on a bike***
with cars, you have on 02 sensor that senses the engine getting lean and compensates for it. with a bike you have a programed setup that doesn't change the amount of fuel for anything other then dirt clogging the injectors. you will need to go with a wet kit or use full nitrous management. hope that helps let me know if you need more help.
33.3% Oxygen per unit as opposed to 19-21% found in normal ambient air. Nitric Oxide is the stuff you buy from GNC to get BUFF!!!! so i make the mistake all the time to I wanted to call someone out on it...
***you cant really run dry on a bike***
with cars, you have on 02 sensor that senses the engine getting lean and compensates for it. with a bike you have a programed setup that doesn't change the amount of fuel for anything other then dirt clogging the injectors. you will need to go with a wet kit or use full nitrous management. hope that helps let me know if you need more help.
Um new sportbikes have O2 sensors, and dry systems are the way to go with a streetbike in my opinion (fuel-injected bike). They are cheap and easy to install, and work well for moderate power gains.
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with cars, you have on 02 sensor that senses the engine getting lean and compensates for it. with a bike you have a programed setup that doesn't change the amount of fuel for anything other then dirt clogging the injectors. you will need to go with a wet kit or use full nitrous management. hope that helps let me know if you need more help.</TD></TR></TABLE>
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right answer, but you got there the wrong way. (5/20)
I'm fairly certain that cars do not refer to O2 sensor readings for WOT operation, but rather reference fixed values in the ECU.
The way that the dry automotive kits that I have seen work is by increasing the restriction in the FPR, increasing fuel pressure. This method only works on fuel systems with a return line, which most new cars are getting away from.
so basically, you'll need a wet kit or some sort of engine management that can compensate for nitrous.
with cars, you have on 02 sensor that senses the engine getting lean and compensates for it. with a bike you have a programed setup that doesn't change the amount of fuel for anything other then dirt clogging the injectors. you will need to go with a wet kit or use full nitrous management. hope that helps let me know if you need more help.</TD></TR></TABLE>
^^^
right answer, but you got there the wrong way. (5/20)
I'm fairly certain that cars do not refer to O2 sensor readings for WOT operation, but rather reference fixed values in the ECU.
The way that the dry automotive kits that I have seen work is by increasing the restriction in the FPR, increasing fuel pressure. This method only works on fuel systems with a return line, which most new cars are getting away from.
so basically, you'll need a wet kit or some sort of engine management that can compensate for nitrous.
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The kit I'm looking at purchasing is a dry kit that hooks right up to my stock wiring harness. From what I've read and researched on my own you need to run a dry shot for EFI bikes and wet for carburated. I basically just wanted to know if anyone has nitrous on their bike and for how long and if they have noticed any extra or excessive wear on their engine. I don't really know how many miles you can get out of a bike engine that has nitrous sprayed to it every now and then. Since bikes are set up for high compression, I don't see nitrous causing any serious integrity issues unless you over spray or spray too often but I don't know this for certain.
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How long has your friend has nitrous on his bike? If you could ask him how is engine is doing with the nitrous setup and if he has noticed any fuel economy issues or sludge/grit when changing his oil that would be awesome. Thanks bro.
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he's had it on all summer. No issues at all. There should be no reason that sludge or grit would build with a nitrous kit. Fuel economy won't change at all either. Granted of course if you're spraying all the time it will. He's since tuned with the wideband and gets even better mileage now. Bike is being prepped for a turbo this winter. Turbo is already bought
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Yeah. Thanks for the info man. I just ordered a power commander for my bike and a dry nitrous kit with 1lb bottle from MPS. I have to find a map now for my bike via the PC with a nitrous system installed. Can't seem to find one...meh
I do not understand the reasoning behind buying a 600 and then adding nitrous to up the power level to that of a 750 or 1000 temporarily. A 750 or 1000 seems like it would have been the better choice in the first place...
Anyhow, nitrous will add stress to your motor. How much stress will depend on how often and how much nitrous you use. If you are only looking for an occasional squeeze at the strip, I say go for it and hold on tight. Ask around at some motorcycle performance shops to get an idea what they recommend.
Anyhow, nitrous will add stress to your motor. How much stress will depend on how often and how much nitrous you use. If you are only looking for an occasional squeeze at the strip, I say go for it and hold on tight. Ask around at some motorcycle performance shops to get an idea what they recommend.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Tornadom »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I do not understand the reasoning behind buying a 600 and then adding nitrous to up the power level to that of a 750 or 1000 temporarily. A 750 or 1000 seems like it would have been the better choice in the first place...
Anyhow, nitrous will add stress to your motor. How much stress will depend on how often and how much nitrous you use. If you are only looking for an occasional squeeze at the strip, I say go for it and hold on tight. Ask around at some motorcycle performance shops to get an idea what they recommend.</TD></TR></TABLE>
because a 1000 would cost a hell of a lot more, because he already had the 600 and decided to slap some nitrous on it that he had sitting around (him and his buddies are all car nuts), because he can take the stuff off and still have a 600 and not a 1000.
Anyhow, nitrous will add stress to your motor. How much stress will depend on how often and how much nitrous you use. If you are only looking for an occasional squeeze at the strip, I say go for it and hold on tight. Ask around at some motorcycle performance shops to get an idea what they recommend.</TD></TR></TABLE>
because a 1000 would cost a hell of a lot more, because he already had the 600 and decided to slap some nitrous on it that he had sitting around (him and his buddies are all car nuts), because he can take the stuff off and still have a 600 and not a 1000.
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