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Old Oct 6, 2007 | 08:51 AM
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hey guys im new to the honda scene the question i have is if i chipped my p28 ecu for my d16z6 wat can i rev it till before it blows?
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Old Oct 6, 2007 | 08:59 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 20vt_gtx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hey guys im new to the honda scene the question i have is if i chipped my p28 ecu for my d16z6 wat can i rev it till before it blows?</TD></TR></TABLE>

The stock redline is plenty. You won't make power far before stock redline, let alone after it.

To get a motor to reliably (and usefully) rev past the set fuel cut and rev limiter, you need to upgrade your motors internal parts -- valves, retainers, valvesprings, camshaft, pistons, rods, bearings, etc.
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Old Oct 6, 2007 | 09:07 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 20vt_gtx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hey guys im new to the honda scene the question i have is if i chipped my p28 ecu for my d16z6 wat can i rev it till before it blows?</TD></TR></TABLE>

you will reap no benefit from chipping a stock motor, let alone rev past stock redline. if want to feel some power, do a motor swap, or turbo your existing motor.
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Old Oct 6, 2007 | 09:08 AM
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well i met a guy that rev'd his till 8000rpm no problems but the one time he went over he blew his motor...i was told somewhere else if i changed my rods i can rev higher
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Old Oct 6, 2007 | 09:10 AM
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you probably won't gain any more power from that chipped ecu, you'll probably mess up your gas mileage and kill your engine faster. have fun
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Old Oct 6, 2007 | 09:12 AM
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*sigh*

VDub kids.
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Old Oct 6, 2007 | 09:14 AM
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ya i was thinking about boosting it..but since i went from a big turbo car to this car i just want something n/a this is why i bought this car...even with the stock single cam vtec i beat ls integra's so i was wondering if theres anything i can do to make it just alittle preppy so i dont get left behind the b-series vtec's
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Old Oct 6, 2007 | 09:16 AM
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You're not going to make any type of good power building an N/A D-series without pissing GOBS of money into that pipe-dream. Turboing and swapping are the cheapest (and most available) ways to get power out of a Civic.

It doesn't even have to be a big turbo kit. You can build a SOHC turbo setup that's reliable for less than $1000 with junkyard parts.
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Old Oct 6, 2007 | 09:16 AM
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hey... my vdub made some nice power before i sold it to buy a honda to save gas...
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Old Oct 6, 2007 | 09:17 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 20vt_gtx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hey... my vdub made some nice power before i sold it to buy a honda to save gas... </TD></TR></TABLE>

I'll bet, the GTX is a hog.

If you want to save gas -- don't modify your car.

Don't race it, don't drive aggressively, don't accelerate sharply, don't decelerate quickly. Basically ...

Grandma your **** around town.
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Old Oct 6, 2007 | 09:18 AM
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ya i know i've been in the boosted scene long enough...forget it i'll just save up and drop a K20a screw bseries...the only car that ever kept up to my old car was a built k20a eg
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Old Oct 6, 2007 | 09:19 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 20vt_gtx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ya i know i've been in the boosted scene long enough...forget it i'll just save up and drop a K20a screw bseries...the only car that ever kept up to my old car was a built k20a eg</TD></TR></TABLE>

Welcome to the $10,000 swap club.
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Old Oct 6, 2007 | 09:22 AM
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haha the big turbo gtx driving normal gave me 280km's to a tank of ultra94 if i ripped it on the highway maybe 45mins of fun..lol
i was actually thinking leaving it bonestock and grannyin it around but i got beat by a 2008 vw rabbit...which i cant stand..
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Old Oct 6, 2007 | 09:22 AM
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meh my gtx swap cost more after the big turbo set up
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Old Oct 6, 2007 | 09:40 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 20vt_gtx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ya i was thinking about boosting it..but since i went from a big turbo car to this car i just want something n/a this is why i bought this car...even with the stock single cam vtec i beat ls integra's so i was wondering if theres anything i can do to make it just alittle preppy so i dont get left behind the b-series vtec's</TD></TR></TABLE>

you bought a civic to go NA? not on your current setup i hope. and it's easy to say you beat ls integras, but automatc ls's don't count, 1/16th of a mile don't count, and remember it's always the driver, not the car. you building you current set up to go NA you will still not keep up with a vtec b-series motor anyways.

if you want to go fast, with a reliable motor/parts, and stay at a reseaonable price. then swapping to a b-series motor or going turbo on you "d" is the best options. now if you have the money for a k-series motor, then by all means go for it.

but i wouldn't spend not a dime on NA parts for you sohc.
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Old Oct 6, 2007 | 11:48 AM
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yeah I call bs on beating ls integra's with a single cam unless they were automatic. not that they're fast or anything..
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