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Old Oct 6, 2007 | 06:52 AM
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hey im building my block with just pm7 pistons on a d16z6. going for 12:1 compression. should i use a block guard? im not gonna spray it or boost it this is just for a project...
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Old Oct 6, 2007 | 07:34 AM
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I wouldnt.
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Old Oct 19, 2007 | 12:21 PM
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why wouldnt you use a block guard?
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Old Oct 19, 2007 | 01:43 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Aznsins666 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">why wouldnt you use a block guard?</TD></TR></TABLE>
It's an unnecessary expense.
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Old Oct 19, 2007 | 05:11 PM
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but isnt it atleast better than stock as long as you weld it in like it should be?
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Old Oct 19, 2007 | 05:27 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Aznsins666 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">but isnt it atleast better than stock as long as you weld it in like it should be?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Well, for example, you could put an electric fence around your house and have armed guards patrol your property. That would make your house a lot safer, but it's completely unnecessary.
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Old Oct 19, 2007 | 06:28 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ddd4114 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Well, for example, you could put an electric fence around your house and have armed guards patrol your property. That would make your house a lot safer, but it's completely unnecessary.</TD></TR></TABLE>
x2, not worth it unless your planning a 400hp d-series. And ive heard rumors of the guard hendering cooling??
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Old Oct 19, 2007 | 06:43 PM
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I wouldnt spend the extra money and time to put it in unless you were gonna boost or spray it.
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Old Oct 19, 2007 | 07:17 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by b16a3delsol &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I wouldnt spend the extra money and time to put it in unless you were gonna boost or spray it. </TD></TR></TABLE>
even still, i dont see the potential gain/protection, that it would provide.
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Old Oct 19, 2007 | 09:39 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by yoffer &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">And ive heard rumors of the guard hendering cooling??</TD></TR></TABLE>
I've heard that too. I think it depends on the guard though...
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Old Oct 19, 2007 | 09:51 PM
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the block guard does hinder cooling. easy to realize cause it disrupts flow in the water jacket.
anywho, yer not gonna boost or use nitrous. theres no need for the block guard.

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Old Oct 19, 2007 | 10:04 PM
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block guards are primarily for forced induction, and even then they are a band-aid. they WILL hurt your cooling and not be as beneficial as a resleeve.

NA motor = dont worry.
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Old Oct 19, 2007 | 11:25 PM
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Does OVER KILL mean anything?? Seriously, theres no need for a block guard. And I am pretty sure you don't weld them in either. That would cause deformities in the roundness of the cylinder.. maybe... but I did not weld mine. Had to press in.
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Old Oct 20, 2007 | 01:59 AM
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I've heard of some block guards needing to be welded in.

IMHO, I don't think you would need one on that type of build. The stock sleeves will hold up just fine.
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Old Oct 20, 2007 | 07:33 AM
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i dont kno about the op but im just wondering if its going to be ok because im planning a boosted b20 but only for like 7psi but i dont have the money to resleeve
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Old Oct 20, 2007 | 09:48 AM
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when using a block guard make sure the holes are big enough for the coolant to go threw easy.. on my buddies car it was overheating and we had to open it up and drill the holes bigger.... and who cares how much power your making, if you wanna do it then do it... but sleeving a block is much safer then the block guard, pricey but safer

-carson
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Old Oct 20, 2007 | 11:18 AM
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92'si, how is it running now after you guys drilled the holes bigger? what is his setup? like i stated earlier im just lookin to turbo a b20 and just boostin it to around 7psi or around 225-250 hp?
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Old Oct 26, 2007 | 11:30 PM
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better make sure tht b20 is a standard bore! lol If not, I wouldn't see it staying cool if lasting long if thats the case. Ive got a b20 block that was boosted i bought from a guy. Not sure what name brand the block guard is, but he sd that the guy he put it together for had problems w it heating up on him. Think he was around 5or7 pounds. It was tuned but only lasted around 3or4 months tho. If you get it properly tuned real well from someone tht knows what theyre doing, i wld say it wld last longer. How much are you wanting to put in to it? Such as good rods and pistons? If you did all that, it should be a pretty good ride. A dude from my area is boosting one on a greddy kit on 7psi and watched him track down an 03 lightning w slicks and "150" shot. Or sd to be. He was deff spraying it but didnt hear anyone that vouched for it. It was pretty quick tho. Is ure block a jdm b20b block? Have heard from a sev ppl that the walls are designed diff from the usdm and the area between 2 and 3 is thicker(area where most b20s crack) awa maybe the cylinder walls might be a little thicker themselves. Ive got both blocks in my basement so ill get the mics out and let you know for sure.
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Old Oct 28, 2007 | 04:53 AM
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Nuformz make great block guards
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