JDM ITR Motor VS USDM ITR Motor- Decisions???
Well I'm at a situation where i probably leave the FI Scene and was thinking of the 98-01 spec ITR JDM Motor w/4.7FD N/A
I would like to ask those who have own or personally driven these motors a few Q's?
#1) Compression Cylinder Tests Difference from the two motors?
#2) How are the 4.7FD for Daily Driving?
#3) Overall is it worth the $4K +mods (in the future)?
*Please Indicate notes: If any mods. have been touch ex: Headgasket, milled, OS Pistons ect.
I would like to ask those who have own or personally driven these motors a few Q's?
#1) Compression Cylinder Tests Difference from the two motors?
#2) How are the 4.7FD for Daily Driving?
#3) Overall is it worth the $4K +mods (in the future)?
*Please Indicate notes: If any mods. have been touch ex: Headgasket, milled, OS Pistons ect.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GO-FIGHT-KILL »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Try an ATS 5.077FD with M-Factory close gearing... It'll be fun topping out at 110mph. 
Yes, 4.785FD is fine for daily driving from what I've been told.</TD></TR></TABLE>
lol ill be there when i i rebuild my motor

Yes, 4.785FD is fine for daily driving from what I've been told.</TD></TR></TABLE>
lol ill be there when i i rebuild my motor
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by spoonhatchblack »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If anyone knows:
What is the Max speed for the 4.7FD & the 4.4FD? </TD></TR></TABLE>
4.400FD = 154mph
4.785FD = 142mph
4.928FD = 137mph
4.400FD with M-Factory 3rd (1.695), 4th (1.296), 5th (1.000) = 131mph.
... Yeah, I haven't been researching final drives/gearing lately.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by cltitus »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
lol ill be there when i i rebuild my motor </TD></TR></TABLE>
Crazy bastard.
What is the Max speed for the 4.7FD & the 4.4FD? </TD></TR></TABLE>
4.400FD = 154mph
4.785FD = 142mph
4.928FD = 137mph
4.400FD with M-Factory 3rd (1.695), 4th (1.296), 5th (1.000) = 131mph.
... Yeah, I haven't been researching final drives/gearing lately.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by cltitus »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
lol ill be there when i i rebuild my motor </TD></TR></TABLE>
Crazy bastard.
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thats were im at right now. got the ats 4.9 final and it feels like its on crack. got the acceleration but i fill up every 3 days now with my type of driving..but loving it..
..i max out my 4th gear and it was a little over 110 mph. i dont know if it will really hit over 135 at 5th.
..i max out my 4th gear and it was a little over 110 mph. i dont know if it will really hit over 135 at 5th.
im under 4k and under the speed limit with OEM JDM ITR trans. i dont remmber but i think 100km is like 37 3800?
i loveeee my JDM R swap.
i have driven a few of my friends USDM R's with USDM motors and maybe the ones they have are just tired or mine is extra quick but...
also its worth considering to have a b18c5 in the engine bay instead of a b18c. depending on what your going for...
i loveeee my JDM R swap.
i have driven a few of my friends USDM R's with USDM motors and maybe the ones they have are just tired or mine is extra quick but...
also its worth considering to have a b18c5 in the engine bay instead of a b18c. depending on what your going for...
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by spoonhatchblack »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Would you guys invest in this motor or FI?</TD></TR></TABLE>
<FONT COLOR="blue"> Most of the guys on here are about NA
Some are power heads... But rare
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<FONT COLOR="blue"> Most of the guys on here are about NA

Some are power heads... But rare
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******* winds me up when people call it a 4.7 final drive
if you're going to bother rounding it, last time i checked 4.785 was closer to 4.8 than 4.7. fucksake.
70mph is 3,900rpm. perfectly liveable
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GO-FIGHT-KILL »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
4.400FD = 154mph
4.785FD = 142mph</TD></TR></TABLE>
don't lie. even when my car was stock i smashed 150mph in 5th, with more rpm's to go. the speedo isn't THAT innaccurate
if you're going to bother rounding it, last time i checked 4.785 was closer to 4.8 than 4.7. fucksake.
70mph is 3,900rpm. perfectly liveable
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GO-FIGHT-KILL »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
4.400FD = 154mph
4.785FD = 142mph</TD></TR></TABLE>
don't lie. even when my car was stock i smashed 150mph in 5th, with more rpm's to go. the speedo isn't THAT innaccurate
i jus drove my whip, 100km was 36-37 right in the middle. and 110 is 3900.... thats very drivable.
i say go for the NA! if you want to go for the max power quest... sell the R and use the extra money and decreased attention to fund a really fast fmic'd out GSR or LS or RS.
thats what i would do... i love NA but if i had something like an SI or something, id imagine snails would sound pretty good...
i say go for the NA! if you want to go for the max power quest... sell the R and use the extra money and decreased attention to fund a really fast fmic'd out GSR or LS or RS.
thats what i would do... i love NA but if i had something like an SI or something, id imagine snails would sound pretty good...
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tartje »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">don't lie. even when my car was stock i smashed 150mph in 5th, with more rpm's to go. the speedo isn't THAT innaccurate
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Annnnnd do you just have the final drive, or a '98+ Spec transmission?
</TD></TR></TABLE>Annnnnd do you just have the final drive, or a '98+ Spec transmission?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jgirard »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">How much would it cost to have a 4.785 final drive put in? Is it a DIY project? This is a mod I was contemplating on getting in the future</TD></TR></TABLE>
Are you mechanically inclinded? Do you feel comfortable with a lot of moving parts?
My first transmsision that I rebuilt took me a while, but I acomplished it. You'll feel proud that you did it all yourself.
Are you mechanically inclinded? Do you feel comfortable with a lot of moving parts?
My first transmsision that I rebuilt took me a while, but I acomplished it. You'll feel proud that you did it all yourself.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jgirard »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">How much would it cost to have a 4.785 final drive put in? Is it a DIY project? This is a mod I was contemplating on getting in the future</TD></TR></TABLE>
hahahahhaa. it could be a diy. and you have to be pretty damn mechanically inclined. i plan to go 4.9 fd in jan or feb.. cant wait
hahahahhaa. it could be a diy. and you have to be pretty damn mechanically inclined. i plan to go 4.9 fd in jan or feb.. cant wait
I myself, I'd rather pay a professional to do something like transmission work. Hell, I just pay to have everything done on my Type-R, other cars I enjoy working on, but with this car, I'd rather just know it's done right.
With that being said, if you know what you're doing, give it a shot. I'd rather have it done by someone who knows what they're doing.
With that being said, if you know what you're doing, give it a shot. I'd rather have it done by someone who knows what they're doing.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GO-FIGHT-KILL »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Annnnnd do you just have the final drive, or a '98+ Spec transmission?
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'98 spec 'mission
as the dudes talking about a JDM motor or a USDM motor, i figure he's talking about getting a tranny with the engine, so it wouldn't be just the final drive anyway
yea
Annnnnd do you just have the final drive, or a '98+ Spec transmission?
</TD></TR></TABLE>'98 spec 'mission
as the dudes talking about a JDM motor or a USDM motor, i figure he's talking about getting a tranny with the engine, so it wouldn't be just the final drive anyway
yea
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tartje »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
'98 spec 'mission
as the dudes talking about a JDM motor or a USDM motor, i figure he's talking about getting a tranny with the engine, so it wouldn't be just the final drive anyway
yea
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True but 98 Spec JDM ITR transmission have a 4th and 5th GSR gears. So obviously if you put a JDM 4.78 final drive into a US tranmission (or a JDM 97-97) it will be more aggresive in 4th and 5th.
'98 spec 'mission
as the dudes talking about a JDM motor or a USDM motor, i figure he's talking about getting a tranny with the engine, so it wouldn't be just the final drive anyway
yea
</TD></TR></TABLE>True but 98 Spec JDM ITR transmission have a 4th and 5th GSR gears. So obviously if you put a JDM 4.78 final drive into a US tranmission (or a JDM 97-97) it will be more aggresive in 4th and 5th.
I have the 96 spec ITR motor totally felt a difference over the US ITR. I think it is worth it, all I have on my motor is intake, exhaust, and flywheel and it moves pretty good but it is a personal choice so its up to you.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tartje »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
'98 spec 'mission
as the dudes talking about a JDM motor or a USDM motor, i figure he's talking about getting a tranny with the engine, so it wouldn't be just the final drive anyway
yea
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by neo_ »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
True but 98 Spec JDM ITR transmission have a 4th and 5th GSR gears. So obviously if you put a JDM 4.78 final drive into a US tranmission (or a JDM 97-97) it will be more aggresive in 4th and 5th.</TD></TR></TABLE>
^ That's what I was getting at.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Trev-R257 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have the 96 spec ITR motor totally felt a difference over the US ITR. I think it is worth it, all I have on my motor is intake, exhaust, and flywheel and it moves pretty good but it is a personal choice so its up to you.</TD></TR></TABLE>
That's funny... Because the '96 Type-R is more similar to the USDM Type-R.
'98 spec 'mission
as the dudes talking about a JDM motor or a USDM motor, i figure he's talking about getting a tranny with the engine, so it wouldn't be just the final drive anyway
yea
</TD></TR></TABLE><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by neo_ »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
True but 98 Spec JDM ITR transmission have a 4th and 5th GSR gears. So obviously if you put a JDM 4.78 final drive into a US tranmission (or a JDM 97-97) it will be more aggresive in 4th and 5th.</TD></TR></TABLE>
^ That's what I was getting at.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Trev-R257 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have the 96 spec ITR motor totally felt a difference over the US ITR. I think it is worth it, all I have on my motor is intake, exhaust, and flywheel and it moves pretty good but it is a personal choice so its up to you.</TD></TR></TABLE>
That's funny... Because the '96 Type-R is more similar to the USDM Type-R.


