Should I set up to run on E85??????
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Should I set up to run on E85??????
Ok, so I am a noob in the tunner world(grew up building old school stuff). Was talking with some people and they say you can get HUGE gains by switching to E85. Can I do this? Would it be worth it? How do I go about doing it????? I have a 94 Accord EX with the H22 swap, boosted(currently running 6psi) Stock internals, MSD, IC spray. Some one help the noob PLEASE!!!! LOL
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Re: Should I set up to run on E85?????? (cbradley80)
I don't think any Honda and Acura cars can do E85. I think you have to convert it or something.... Plus it says in the Honda manual... you can only run up to 10% ethanol.
If you know what to replace, go ahead. Maybe some of us can do it too.
http://www.e85fuel.com/e85101/faqs/conversion.php read it.
If you know what to replace, go ahead. Maybe some of us can do it too.
http://www.e85fuel.com/e85101/faqs/conversion.php read it.
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Re: Should I set up to run on E85?????? (The-Kid)
Ya, he was sayng something about needing to run bigger injectors, and so on. Again I am a noob and looking for any advice! Thanks for the input. Anyone else has any it's welcome.
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Re: Should I set up to run on E85?????? (cbradley80)
The big advantage of E85 over gasoline is its high octane rating. If you want to get the full potential out of E85 you'll have to have higher compression. Maybe you could step up the boost instead, dunno. Also, it's possible you'd need larger injectors, I'm really not sure here, but that depends. I think you'd be flowing 150% of the fuel you're flowing now. Not sure if my math is right on that.
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Re: Should I set up to run on E85?????? (cbradley80)
I'd do alot of reading...higher octane slower burning..you can actually do more harm than good......3 parts 92 octane..1 part 119 trick ftw
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Re: Should I set up to run on E85?????? (I got the CD5 Jeebies!)
There is no advantage to running E85. I t is a rip off gimmic by the agriculture and energy department. It offers no gain for you or the environment. Just billions of $ in subsidies to farmers and shiit like that. It is actually harder on the environment to grow corn and a more of a waste to make it than to just refine crude oil. The only thing about E(crap)85 is that it has less carbon emmision BURN. but think about all the other ways it is horrible for the earth. Pesticides, fertilizers, equipment (not burning E85), and then the soil erosion and run off issues of chemicals during farming. and then theres the FACT of less miles per gallon. E85 IS AN ALL AROUND RIPOFF!! It is a rip off to the entire industry. It is making the price of other crops like soybeans and wheat go up and offsetting any potential economic gains useless. Farmers now care only about growing corn for fuel instead of growing nutritious crops to feed humans! E85 is not sustanable in the long run!!!
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Re: Should I set up to run on E85?????? (Blamm!!)
err i think he meant cuz its got a higher equivalent of octane,
at least thats what my stoner *** roomate said, he was gonna turn up the boost and reprogram or whatever to use e85
at least thats what my stoner *** roomate said, he was gonna turn up the boost and reprogram or whatever to use e85
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Re: Should I set up to run on E85?????? (361 accord)
Wow, maybe I shouldn't switch. Sounds like it is pretty unproven, and I'd be better off doing other things! Thanks for helping the noob!! Any websites, or places on the forum that have good info on building a H22??????
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Re: Should I set up to run on E85?????? (cbradley80)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by cbradley80 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Wow, maybe I shouldn't switch. Sounds like it is pretty unproven, and I'd be better off doing other things! Thanks for helping the noob!! Any websites, or places on the forum that have good info on building a H22?????? </TD></TR></TABLE>
Blamm has a right to his own opinion of E85, but I think there is more to the story than he's telling. There can be HUGE advantages to running E85. Don't beleive me? Check out the pump gas dyno contests at Sema coming up at the end of the month and see how many of those guys are running it. Here's a car local to me that's done just fine on corn.
http://www.rune85.com/turbocobra
That car has since done 1150whp on E85.
As far as I know, there isn't anything out there for conversion kits to run E85 for Hondas but I'd guess the applications would be available in the next few years.
Blamm has a right to his own opinion of E85, but I think there is more to the story than he's telling. There can be HUGE advantages to running E85. Don't beleive me? Check out the pump gas dyno contests at Sema coming up at the end of the month and see how many of those guys are running it. Here's a car local to me that's done just fine on corn.
http://www.rune85.com/turbocobra
That car has since done 1150whp on E85.
As far as I know, there isn't anything out there for conversion kits to run E85 for Hondas but I'd guess the applications would be available in the next few years.
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Re: Should I set up to run on E85?????? (HandoEX)
One obsticle is fuel system components would have to be changed out because I believe the alcohol is bad for plastic components used in gasoline only fuel systems.
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Re: Should I set up to run on E85?????? (SOHCMAN)
This has been a huge help. I don't know much, yet, but I think at this point I am gonna look into building a new H22, and go from there. Even if I am gonna run E85, motor needs to be done first realisticly. Anyone have ideas for motor mounts. I keep ripping them out, some one told me that there is a new setup getting ready to come out for the H22 swaps, but not sure where I can find info.
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Re: Should I set up to run on E85?????? (cbradley80)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by cbradley80 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">This has been a huge help. I don't know much, yet, but I think at this point I am gonna look into building a new H22, and go from there. Even if I am gonna run E85, motor needs to be done first realisticly. Anyone have ideas for motor mounts. I keep ripping them out, some one told me that there is a new setup getting ready to come out for the H22 swaps, but not sure where I can find info. </TD></TR></TABLE>
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Re: Should I set up to run on E85?????? (cbradley80)
only one place in GA offers E85 and i just happened to pass that pump today and got very tempted so i filled up(98 6th gen 4cyl) i opened gas tank with car running so i could see if a little would hurt on an empty tank and nothing bad happened so i kept filling til full.
drove 100 miles with no problems. CEL came on but no problems that i could tell. im sure ecu couldnt figure out what was going on with exhaust or how to adjust mixtures......etc.
was $.30 cheaper and i'd run it just for that reason.
there was a big big sticker on the pump "contains minimum 85% ethanol" "use only in "flexfuel cars" " "check manual for details"
i then smelled it and was a very very faint smell of gas.
drove 100 miles with no problems. CEL came on but no problems that i could tell. im sure ecu couldnt figure out what was going on with exhaust or how to adjust mixtures......etc.
was $.30 cheaper and i'd run it just for that reason.
there was a big big sticker on the pump "contains minimum 85% ethanol" "use only in "flexfuel cars" " "check manual for details"
i then smelled it and was a very very faint smell of gas.
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Re: Should I set up to run on E85?????? (b18crx)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by b18crx »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">only one place in GA offers E85 and i just happened to pass that pump today and got very tempted so i filled up(98 6th gen 4cyl) i opened gas tank with car running so i could see if a little would hurt on an empty tank and nothing bad happened so i kept filling til full.
drove 100 miles with no problems. CEL came on but no problems that i could tell. im sure ecu couldnt figure out what was going on with exhaust or how to adjust mixtures......etc.
was $.30 cheaper and i'd run it just for that reason.
there was a big big sticker on the pump "contains minimum 85% ethanol" "use only in "flexfuel cars" " "check manual for details"
i then smelled it and was a very very faint smell of gas. </TD></TR></TABLE>
drove 100 miles with no problems. CEL came on but no problems that i could tell. im sure ecu couldnt figure out what was going on with exhaust or how to adjust mixtures......etc.
was $.30 cheaper and i'd run it just for that reason.
there was a big big sticker on the pump "contains minimum 85% ethanol" "use only in "flexfuel cars" " "check manual for details"
i then smelled it and was a very very faint smell of gas. </TD></TR></TABLE>
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Re: Should I set up to run on E85?????? (HandoEX)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HandoEX »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Blamm has a right to his own opinion of E85, but I think there is more to the story than he's telling. There can be HUGE advantages to running E85. Don't beleive me? Check out the pump gas dyno contests at Sema coming up at the end of the month and see how many of those guys are running it. Here's a car local to me that's done just fine on corn.
http://www.rune85.com/turbocobra
That car has since done 1150whp on E85.
As far as I know, there isn't anything out there for conversion kits to run E85 for Hondas but I'd guess the applications would be available in the next few years.</TD></TR></TABLE>
There is absolutely NO advantage to running E85 unless you consider the following an advantage
1. pay for conversion
2. pay higher food costs because corn has gone up 400% in price
3. lower milage
big gains my ***
ethanol has a lower energy content than gasoline—75,670 British thermal units (BTUs) per gallon instead of 115,400 for gasoline, according to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration.
E85 is payed for mostly by tax dollars
Blamm has a right to his own opinion of E85, but I think there is more to the story than he's telling. There can be HUGE advantages to running E85. Don't beleive me? Check out the pump gas dyno contests at Sema coming up at the end of the month and see how many of those guys are running it. Here's a car local to me that's done just fine on corn.
http://www.rune85.com/turbocobra
That car has since done 1150whp on E85.
As far as I know, there isn't anything out there for conversion kits to run E85 for Hondas but I'd guess the applications would be available in the next few years.</TD></TR></TABLE>
There is absolutely NO advantage to running E85 unless you consider the following an advantage
1. pay for conversion
2. pay higher food costs because corn has gone up 400% in price
3. lower milage
big gains my ***
ethanol has a lower energy content than gasoline—75,670 British thermal units (BTUs) per gallon instead of 115,400 for gasoline, according to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration.
E85 is payed for mostly by tax dollars
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Re: Should I set up to run on E85?????? (YeuEmMaiMai)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by YeuEmMaiMai »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
There is absolutely NO advantage to running E85 unless you consider the following an advantage
1. pay for conversion
2. pay higher food costs because corn has gone up 400% in price
3. lower milage
big gains my ***
ethanol has a lower energy content than gasoline—75,670 British thermal units (BTUs) per gallon instead of 115,400 for gasoline, according to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration.
E85 is payed for mostly by tax dollars</TD></TR></TABLE>
Hey, I never said that switching to e85 was the best move for everyone. You can't argue with high octane e85 at less than $3 a gallon compared to race gas at $7.50 a gallon. If I was tuning a swapped and boosted car (like the op's boosted H22 Accord) and looking for the highest horsepower possible, I'd strongly consider going to corn over 100+ octane race gas. Tons, and tons of high whp cars are on corn.
So, YeuEmMaiMai, if there wasn't any gains to using corn, why would so many high hp cars use it? Just do some Google searches before you post next time
There is absolutely NO advantage to running E85 unless you consider the following an advantage
1. pay for conversion
2. pay higher food costs because corn has gone up 400% in price
3. lower milage
big gains my ***
ethanol has a lower energy content than gasoline—75,670 British thermal units (BTUs) per gallon instead of 115,400 for gasoline, according to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration.
E85 is payed for mostly by tax dollars</TD></TR></TABLE>
Hey, I never said that switching to e85 was the best move for everyone. You can't argue with high octane e85 at less than $3 a gallon compared to race gas at $7.50 a gallon. If I was tuning a swapped and boosted car (like the op's boosted H22 Accord) and looking for the highest horsepower possible, I'd strongly consider going to corn over 100+ octane race gas. Tons, and tons of high whp cars are on corn.
So, YeuEmMaiMai, if there wasn't any gains to using corn, why would so many high hp cars use it? Just do some Google searches before you post next time
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Re: Should I set up to run on E85?????? (HandoEX)
lol simple math owns you
last time I checked 115,400 > 75,670
ethanol has a lower energy content than gasoline—75,670 British thermal units (BTUs) per gallon instead of 115,400 for gasoline
so it is not as efficient as gas
the reason they use it has everything to do with the fact that IT IS SUBSIDIZED. Do you REALLY BELIVE that it only cost $3 a gallon?
If the US Government didn't subsidize it, it would BE MORE EXPENSIVE than gasoline..
so why not take your own advice before you post next time eh? and actually do some research about what e85 REALLY costs.......
I hate paying taxes so some dumb [freak] can pay $3 for e85 at a race track.........
last time I checked 115,400 > 75,670
ethanol has a lower energy content than gasoline—75,670 British thermal units (BTUs) per gallon instead of 115,400 for gasoline
so it is not as efficient as gas
the reason they use it has everything to do with the fact that IT IS SUBSIDIZED. Do you REALLY BELIVE that it only cost $3 a gallon?
If the US Government didn't subsidize it, it would BE MORE EXPENSIVE than gasoline..
so why not take your own advice before you post next time eh? and actually do some research about what e85 REALLY costs.......
I hate paying taxes so some dumb [freak] can pay $3 for e85 at a race track.........
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Re: Should I set up to run on E85?????? (YeuEmMaiMai)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by YeuEmMaiMai »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">lol simple math owns you
last time I checked 115,400 > 75,670
ethanol has a lower energy content than gasoline—75,670 British thermal units (BTUs) per gallon instead of 115,400 for gasoline
so it is not as efficient as gas
the reason they use it has everything to do with the fact that IT IS SUBSIDIZED. Do you REALLY BELIVE that it only cost $3 a gallon?
If the US Government didn't subsidize it, it would BE MORE EXPENSIVE than gasoline..
so why not take your own advice before you post next time eh? and actually do some research about what e85 REALLY costs.......
I hate paying taxes so some dumb [freak] can pay $3 for e85 at a race track.........</TD></TR></TABLE>
The government is going to subsidize it whether the op runs it or not so I don't see how that is really a factor. Unless the government stops subsidizing it, it's still going to cost $3 for him to run it and race gas will still cost $7. It's being payed for through taxes whether he chooses to use it or not so why pay twice as much for the same octane rated fuel?
last time I checked 115,400 > 75,670
ethanol has a lower energy content than gasoline—75,670 British thermal units (BTUs) per gallon instead of 115,400 for gasoline
so it is not as efficient as gas
the reason they use it has everything to do with the fact that IT IS SUBSIDIZED. Do you REALLY BELIVE that it only cost $3 a gallon?
If the US Government didn't subsidize it, it would BE MORE EXPENSIVE than gasoline..
so why not take your own advice before you post next time eh? and actually do some research about what e85 REALLY costs.......
I hate paying taxes so some dumb [freak] can pay $3 for e85 at a race track.........</TD></TR></TABLE>
The government is going to subsidize it whether the op runs it or not so I don't see how that is really a factor. Unless the government stops subsidizing it, it's still going to cost $3 for him to run it and race gas will still cost $7. It's being payed for through taxes whether he chooses to use it or not so why pay twice as much for the same octane rated fuel?
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Re: Should I set up to run on E85?????? (HandoEX)
he's trying to make it seem like a Godsend and it isn't
I say if people want to use e85 go a head but DON'T FORCE ME TO PAY ANYTHING FOR IT.
Corn used to be $1 for 10 and now it is $.40 each ear...........
there is NO WAY that e85 would survive here without subsidies
and the OP will have to BURN A LOT MORE OF IT to make the same power as gas at least 30% more fuel......so again, I fail to see what the big gains are at..............
cars get their BEST milage and make the MOST POWER on straight gas
cars loose milage on methanol/ethanol gas mix soemwhere around 1-2mpg
e-85 comes in at the bottom of the list in terms of milage and power
I say if people want to use e85 go a head but DON'T FORCE ME TO PAY ANYTHING FOR IT.
Corn used to be $1 for 10 and now it is $.40 each ear...........
there is NO WAY that e85 would survive here without subsidies
and the OP will have to BURN A LOT MORE OF IT to make the same power as gas at least 30% more fuel......so again, I fail to see what the big gains are at..............
cars get their BEST milage and make the MOST POWER on straight gas
cars loose milage on methanol/ethanol gas mix soemwhere around 1-2mpg
e-85 comes in at the bottom of the list in terms of milage and power
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Re: Should I set up to run on E85?????? (YeuEmMaiMai)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HandoEX »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Hey, I never said that switching to e85 was the best move for everyone. </TD></TR></TABLE>
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by YeuEmMaiMai »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">he's trying to make it seem like a Godsend and it isn't</TD></TR></TABLE>
Are you even reading my posts?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by YeuEmMaiMai »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I say if people want to use e85 go a head but DON'T FORCE ME TO PAY ANYTHING FOR IT.
Corn used to be $1 for 10 and now it is $.40 each ear...........
there is NO WAY that e85 would survive here without subsidies
and the OP will have to BURN A LOT MORE OF IT to make the same power as gas at least 30% more fuel......so again, I fail to see what the big gains are at..............
cars get their BEST milage and make the MOST POWER on straight gas
cars loose milage on methanol/ethanol gas mix soemwhere around 1-2mpg
e-85 comes in at the bottom of the list in terms of milage and power</TD></TR></TABLE>
I don't know why you keep bringing up the fact that it is subsidized. What the hell does that have to do with tuning a car? The person using e85 isn't the one forcing you to pay for it so quit spamming a year old thread with your
and write a letter to your congressman or something.
If corn based fuel doesn't lead to potential power gains, why are tons of huge whp cars using e85/e98? If you can answer that question, I'll stop posting
*edit*
For the record, I am 100% against tax payers funding ethanol production in any way.
Modified by HandoEX at 10:06 AM 5/14/2008
Hey, I never said that switching to e85 was the best move for everyone. </TD></TR></TABLE>
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by YeuEmMaiMai »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">he's trying to make it seem like a Godsend and it isn't</TD></TR></TABLE>
Are you even reading my posts?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by YeuEmMaiMai »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I say if people want to use e85 go a head but DON'T FORCE ME TO PAY ANYTHING FOR IT.
Corn used to be $1 for 10 and now it is $.40 each ear...........
there is NO WAY that e85 would survive here without subsidies
and the OP will have to BURN A LOT MORE OF IT to make the same power as gas at least 30% more fuel......so again, I fail to see what the big gains are at..............
cars get their BEST milage and make the MOST POWER on straight gas
cars loose milage on methanol/ethanol gas mix soemwhere around 1-2mpg
e-85 comes in at the bottom of the list in terms of milage and power</TD></TR></TABLE>
I don't know why you keep bringing up the fact that it is subsidized. What the hell does that have to do with tuning a car? The person using e85 isn't the one forcing you to pay for it so quit spamming a year old thread with your
and write a letter to your congressman or something. If corn based fuel doesn't lead to potential power gains, why are tons of huge whp cars using e85/e98? If you can answer that question, I'll stop posting
*edit*
For the record, I am 100% against tax payers funding ethanol production in any way.
Modified by HandoEX at 10:06 AM 5/14/2008
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Re: Should I set up to run on E85?????? (b18crx)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by b18crx »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">only one place in GA offers E85 and i just happened to pass that pump today and got very tempted so i filled up(98 6th gen 4cyl) i opened gas tank with car running so i could see if a little would hurt on an empty tank and nothing bad happened so i kept filling til full.
drove 100 miles with no problems. CEL came on but no problems that i could tell. im sure ecu couldnt figure out what was going on with exhaust or how to adjust mixtures......etc.
was $.30 cheaper and i'd run it just for that reason.
there was a big big sticker on the pump "contains minimum 85% ethanol" "use only in "flexfuel cars" " "check manual for details"
i then smelled it and was a very very faint smell of gas. </TD></TR></TABLE>When your car finally takes a ****, or you realize the milage sucks. Don't come back.
drove 100 miles with no problems. CEL came on but no problems that i could tell. im sure ecu couldnt figure out what was going on with exhaust or how to adjust mixtures......etc.
was $.30 cheaper and i'd run it just for that reason.
there was a big big sticker on the pump "contains minimum 85% ethanol" "use only in "flexfuel cars" " "check manual for details"
i then smelled it and was a very very faint smell of gas. </TD></TR></TABLE>When your car finally takes a ****, or you realize the milage sucks. Don't come back.
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Re: Should I set up to run on E85?????? (HandoEX)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HandoEX »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Are you even reading my posts?
I don't know why you keep bringing up the fact that it is subsidized. What the hell does that have to do with tuning a car? The person using e85 isn't the one forcing you to pay for it so quit spamming a year old thread with your and write a letter to your congressman or something.
If corn based fuel doesn't lead to potential power gains, why are tons of huge whp cars using e85/e98? If you can answer that question, I'll stop posting </TD></TR></TABLE>For every 1 of those pieces of **** with mouth breather owners, I can show you 10 that run gasoline.
Are you even reading my posts?
I don't know why you keep bringing up the fact that it is subsidized. What the hell does that have to do with tuning a car? The person using e85 isn't the one forcing you to pay for it so quit spamming a year old thread with your
and write a letter to your congressman or something. If corn based fuel doesn't lead to potential power gains, why are tons of huge whp cars using e85/e98? If you can answer that question, I'll stop posting
</TD></TR></TABLE>For every 1 of those pieces of **** with mouth breather owners, I can show you 10 that run gasoline.
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Re: Should I set up to run on E85?????? (HandoEX)
HandoEX is right bro...
If E85 was here locally I would use it in my honda and tune it for use. just because of the price. Secondly because i want to dable with power. Third because of the enviroment. yes we know it might be more into the manufacturing the corn into fuel but that's the process that's flawed. the racing industry has been on the corn for years.
To all, to use the fuel u need to run either more compression( just like someone mentioned)and or chip the ecu and run a wideband to watch the A/F ratio (9:1 or so instead of 14:1) to start.
If E85 was here locally I would use it in my honda and tune it for use. just because of the price. Secondly because i want to dable with power. Third because of the enviroment. yes we know it might be more into the manufacturing the corn into fuel but that's the process that's flawed. the racing industry has been on the corn for years.
To all, to use the fuel u need to run either more compression( just like someone mentioned)and or chip the ecu and run a wideband to watch the A/F ratio (9:1 or so instead of 14:1) to start.
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it wouldnt pay itself off plus you do get worse gas mileage, my gfs taurus went further on reg than it did on e85, but around here e85 is hard to find, and i live in minnesota, home of the corn fields....
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Re: Should I set up to run on E85?????? (b18crx)
that new O2 sensor didnt keep cel off. in fact, i'm about to install my 3rd one since running the e85. not sure what happened. autozone says the code is for primary O2 (bank 1) and no more codes. not sure how to check it myself with the jumper on the 6th gen. so who knows.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by b18crx »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">only one place in GA offers E85 and i just happened to pass that pump today and got very tempted so i filled up(98 6th gen 4cyl) i opened gas tank with car running so i could see if a little would hurt on an empty tank and nothing bad happened so i kept filling til full.
drove 100 miles with no problems. CEL came on but no problems that i could tell. im sure ecu couldnt figure out what was going on with exhaust or how to adjust mixtures......etc.
was $.30 cheaper and i'd run it just for that reason.
there was a big big sticker on the pump "contains minimum 85% ethanol" "use only in "flexfuel cars" " "check manual for details"
i then smelled it and was a very very faint smell of gas. </TD></TR></TABLE>
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by b18crx »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">only one place in GA offers E85 and i just happened to pass that pump today and got very tempted so i filled up(98 6th gen 4cyl) i opened gas tank with car running so i could see if a little would hurt on an empty tank and nothing bad happened so i kept filling til full.
drove 100 miles with no problems. CEL came on but no problems that i could tell. im sure ecu couldnt figure out what was going on with exhaust or how to adjust mixtures......etc.
was $.30 cheaper and i'd run it just for that reason.
there was a big big sticker on the pump "contains minimum 85% ethanol" "use only in "flexfuel cars" " "check manual for details"
i then smelled it and was a very very faint smell of gas. </TD></TR></TABLE>
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