1994 Integra - HORRIBLE TIRE WEAR + SPUTTERING/WHITE SMOKE - Look!
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1994 RS Integra
Skunk2Pro Coil Over's
15' Sub Zero's
195/50/15's
Problem 1: Horrible Tire Wear
I am getting horrible wear on the left side of my car and literally none on my right side. So i jacked up my car the other day to raise it(thinking it was too low), and i started on my FL tire. I counted that there was 14 threads showing. I then went to FR tire, and counted 26 threads. My car is sitting even, so idk what there is such a huge thread difference. My friend said it could prolly be that whoever put the Skunk2pro coil overs on they put rears on the right side and the fronts on the left side. And then just adjusted them accordingly to make it sit level. Any ideas on if that could be it or what would be making just the left side wear badly. (also, i checked tire pressure, and my tires were 20-25psi low on air
)Problem 2: Random Motor Sputter +White Smoke
Yesterday i while i was doing my errands, i was going up a hill @ a steady mid-range rpm level. While i was going up the hills etc, my car sputtered and began slowing down. (Popped a little, sputtering, white smoke) So i feathered the gas pedal, and kept on keeping on. I stopped and pulled out onto a main street, and i got on it a bit and my car threw out a big *** cloud of white smoke. Drove fine, but i hit another hill and it began to do that sputter thing.(Tune Up= est. 1500-2200miles. I forgot to change air filter) I was told it could have just sucked something up, it could be the fuel filter, and or the air filter. Idk what would make it do this, the car always has ran crisp. Any ideas what could make the car sound like its running out of gas/ puff smoke at ya?
Modified by Mfoehrkolb at 9:12 PM 10/3/2007
For the tire wear problem.. If it is true that whoever installed the skunk2's put them on in the wrong places, that could definetly be the problem.. if not then you need to make sure that all your tires are pumped up to the correct psi at all times. Trust me i learned this the hard way. Your tires walls can be rubbing the ground if your too low..
For the white smoke problem, i would only be able to guess at maybe it's your fuel filter.. white smoke could be many things, take it to get tuned up again and watch the guy do it. Make sure your not getting ripped.
Good luck.
For the white smoke problem, i would only be able to guess at maybe it's your fuel filter.. white smoke could be many things, take it to get tuned up again and watch the guy do it. Make sure your not getting ripped.
Good luck.
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So they were basically flat? And you are woundering why they are wearing down wierd?
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Coolant - White
Running Rich - Black
Oil - Blue
)</TD></TR></TABLE>So they were basically flat? And you are woundering why they are wearing down wierd?
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Coolant - White
Running Rich - Black
Oil - Blue
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For the white smoke problem, i would only be able to guess at maybe it's your fuel filter.. white smoke could be many things, take it to get tuned up again and watch the guy do it. Make sure your not getting ripped.
Good luck.</TD></TR></TABLE>
--- I do them myself, so no problem on me getting ripped off.
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So they were basically flat? And you are woundering why they are wearing down wierd?
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--- Well thats what im saying, i have rear lowering coils on my right side, and front lowering coils on my left side. In addition i only had 13-15psi in my tires. (they weren't flat at all, thats why it never drew my attention to it)
For the white smoke problem, i would only be able to guess at maybe it's your fuel filter.. white smoke could be many things, take it to get tuned up again and watch the guy do it. Make sure your not getting ripped.
Good luck.</TD></TR></TABLE>
--- I do them myself, so no problem on me getting ripped off.
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So they were basically flat? And you are woundering why they are wearing down wierd?
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--- Well thats what im saying, i have rear lowering coils on my right side, and front lowering coils on my left side. In addition i only had 13-15psi in my tires. (they weren't flat at all, thats why it never drew my attention to it)
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posting pics of the tire tread may help determine what caused it. Running a tire too low for a long time will wear out both outer edges of the tread. If it's lowered with some negative camber, it will probably make for alot more wear on the inside edge than on the outside edge.
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I never adjusted the height of the car. I was going too but then i seen that the coil overs were weird. Idk why the rear spring would be on right and front springs on left. Some moron must have done it, and this weekend i wanna put them where they should be.
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Well the ride height changed when you first put the coilovers on, did it not? I mean the last time the car's ride height changed before you noticed this tire issue, did you get it aligned? Have you been rotating your tires properly?
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i only had trhe car for 3-4 months now, and it is my fixer upper. I'm saying it did get lower with the coilovers, and i dunno if they got it alligned. guessing they didnt. I never myself changed the ride height of this car since i owned it. I wanna make it higher to hopfully elimintate my hitting ****, and this tire problem. but why would only 1 side wear down and not the right side?
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There's no telling, but I'm sure the tire pressure was part of it.
I would say swap those coilovers around to the correct corners of the car, get it to the height you want it, put good tires on it, and then get an alignment place to set the toe to factory specs. Check and adjust tire pressure weekly as necessary, and rotate the tires every 5K miles. Keep an eye on the tire wear and see if you still see anything that looks abnormal.
I would say swap those coilovers around to the correct corners of the car, get it to the height you want it, put good tires on it, and then get an alignment place to set the toe to factory specs. Check and adjust tire pressure weekly as necessary, and rotate the tires every 5K miles. Keep an eye on the tire wear and see if you still see anything that looks abnormal.
CAMBER KIT ! when i got my crx stupid kid did the same thing to me. i fixed it and bought spc camber. all good now ! and for the rear. do it yourself with the do it yourrself way
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camber kit is going to be next investment after my paintjob next week. i wanna see how my tires do after i swap the coil overs/raise it a bit for my larger rims.
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Problem 2: Random Motor Sputter +White Smoke
Yesterday i while i was doing my errands, i was going up a hill @ a steady mid-range rpm level. While i was going up the hills etc, my car sputtered and began slowing down. (Popped a little, sputtering, white smoke) So i feathered the gas pedal, and kept on keeping on. I stopped and pulled out onto a main street, and i got on it a bit and my car threw out a big *** cloud of white smoke. Drove fine, but i hit another hill and it began to do that sputter thing.(Tune Up= est. 1500-2200miles. I forgot to change air filter) I was told it could have just sucked something up, it could be the fuel filter, and or the air filter. Idk what would make it do this, the car always has ran crisp. Any ideas what could make the car sound like its running out of gas/ puff smoke at ya?
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Question: Exhaust
I wanna buy a high-flow cat, but i see on ebay there are cheaper ones for about 30-60 shipped, and more expensive ones for 130-180shipped. What the difference is the inlet size.
Cheaper = 2.25inlet 2.5outlet
Expensive = 2.50inlet 2.5outlet
What is a stock cat-backs specs? I have a 2.5in cat-back atm, but still stock cat.
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--- Anyone have ideas for these 2?
Problem 2: Random Motor Sputter +White Smoke
Yesterday i while i was doing my errands, i was going up a hill @ a steady mid-range rpm level. While i was going up the hills etc, my car sputtered and began slowing down. (Popped a little, sputtering, white smoke) So i feathered the gas pedal, and kept on keeping on. I stopped and pulled out onto a main street, and i got on it a bit and my car threw out a big *** cloud of white smoke. Drove fine, but i hit another hill and it began to do that sputter thing.(Tune Up= est. 1500-2200miles. I forgot to change air filter) I was told it could have just sucked something up, it could be the fuel filter, and or the air filter. Idk what would make it do this, the car always has ran crisp. Any ideas what could make the car sound like its running out of gas/ puff smoke at ya?
Edit:
Question: Exhaust
I wanna buy a high-flow cat, but i see on ebay there are cheaper ones for about 30-60 shipped, and more expensive ones for 130-180shipped. What the difference is the inlet size.
Cheaper = 2.25inlet 2.5outlet
Expensive = 2.50inlet 2.5outlet
What is a stock cat-backs specs? I have a 2.5in cat-back atm, but still stock cat.
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--- Anyone have ideas for these 2?
With the loss of power, I would have to say your cat busted to pieces and is clogging your exhaust. The pieces of cat blow out your exhaust with a color of white.
This happened to me on my beater Saturn. I had to have my foot burried into the gas pedal to get it to move. It stalled out, and I couldn't get it to start - it was acting like it was out of gas.
I also burnt about 2 quarts of oil on a 30 min drive.
This happened to me on my beater Saturn. I had to have my foot burried into the gas pedal to get it to move. It stalled out, and I couldn't get it to start - it was acting like it was out of gas.
I also burnt about 2 quarts of oil on a 30 min drive.
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Wouldn't it depend on the drop though...? Or are you just talking about the rears? I get an alignment every 2 month and the front camber is always off, but the toe has been 0 since the day I lowered it. I know its due to the roads I take which are 95% highway (crosses 2 train tacks). One of my bois had a simlilar problem on his EK which was his bolt holding the trailing arm to the brake hub snap in half and his rear was sagging thus giving him uneven wear. I'd would take it all apart and invest the culprit.
Wouldn't it depend on the drop though...? Or are you just talking about the rears? I get an alignment every 2 month and the front camber is always off, but the toe has been 0 since the day I lowered it. I know its due to the roads I take which are 95% highway (crosses 2 train tacks). One of my bois had a simlilar problem on his EK which was his bolt holding the trailing arm to the brake hub snap in half and his rear was sagging thus giving him uneven wear. I'd would take it all apart and invest the culprit.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by AWD Terror »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">With the loss of power, I would have to say your cat busted to pieces and is clogging your exhaust. The pieces of cat blow out your exhaust with a color of white.
This happened to me on my beater Saturn. I had to have my foot burried into the gas pedal to get it to move. It stalled out, and I couldn't get it to start - it was acting like it was out of gas.
I also burnt about 2 quarts of oil on a 30 min drive.</TD></TR></TABLE>
--- thanks, thats actually explains everything. Sputtering, the lack of rpm build, white smoke, idk if it matters but im also only getting 200 miles a tank, instead of my normal 300-350.
This happened to me on my beater Saturn. I had to have my foot burried into the gas pedal to get it to move. It stalled out, and I couldn't get it to start - it was acting like it was out of gas.
I also burnt about 2 quarts of oil on a 30 min drive.</TD></TR></TABLE>
--- thanks, thats actually explains everything. Sputtering, the lack of rpm build, white smoke, idk if it matters but im also only getting 200 miles a tank, instead of my normal 300-350.
problem 2 possibly sounds like your headgasket.. do you hear bubbling when the car is turned off after driving? any loss of coolant?
i agree that camber kits are just hype. i just get my toe aligned and my tires wear pretty even. dont forget to rotate. not rotating will cause cupping and vibration when neglected.
it shouldnt matter if the springs are all rotated around as long as there the same spring rate and spring height. i know skunk2 rides pretty stiff so i cant remember if they run seperate spring rates front and back
i agree that camber kits are just hype. i just get my toe aligned and my tires wear pretty even. dont forget to rotate. not rotating will cause cupping and vibration when neglected.
it shouldnt matter if the springs are all rotated around as long as there the same spring rate and spring height. i know skunk2 rides pretty stiff so i cant remember if they run seperate spring rates front and back
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all my gaskets and seals were done about 5-6k miles ago. I dont see anythinkg leaking ever, except from my cam cap, cause i broke off the bolt in the head.
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This is what i was looking at. Anything wrong with the options?
Cat:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...wItem
Even if my collector isn't 2.50in will this still work?
Muffler:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...wItem
Header:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...wItem
PLEASE remember, im going turbo so im not trying to spend tons on a exhaust, i just need something better than i have now.
Modified by Mfoehrkolb at 3:28 PM 10/4/2007
Cat:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...wItem
Even if my collector isn't 2.50in will this still work?
Muffler:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...wItem
Header:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...wItem
PLEASE remember, im going turbo so im not trying to spend tons on a exhaust, i just need something better than i have now.
Modified by Mfoehrkolb at 3:28 PM 10/4/2007
usually white smoke indicates a coolant leak. If so, It's possible the gaskets arent sealing good enough or there could be a crack in the cylinder wall.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 98BabiGs-T »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Wouldn't it depend on the drop though...? Or are you just talking about the rears? I get an alignment every 2 month and the front camber is always off, but the toe has been 0 since the day I lowered it. I know its due to the roads I take which are 95% highway (crosses 2 train tacks). One of my bois had a simlilar problem on his EK which was his bolt holding the trailing arm to the brake hub snap in half and his rear was sagging thus giving him uneven wear. I'd would take it all apart and invest the culprit.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I was lowered 3"+ on GC's with as much as -2.8 camber in front. Getting my car aligned every 6 months and rotating the tires every 5K miles, inner tire wear was negligible.
Wouldn't it depend on the drop though...? Or are you just talking about the rears? I get an alignment every 2 month and the front camber is always off, but the toe has been 0 since the day I lowered it. I know its due to the roads I take which are 95% highway (crosses 2 train tacks). One of my bois had a simlilar problem on his EK which was his bolt holding the trailing arm to the brake hub snap in half and his rear was sagging thus giving him uneven wear. I'd would take it all apart and invest the culprit.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I was lowered 3"+ on GC's with as much as -2.8 camber in front. Getting my car aligned every 6 months and rotating the tires every 5K miles, inner tire wear was negligible.
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my car never smokes, only that 1 time, and since this sputtering. ima try the cat, i do nothing to the motor that would crack my block. i dont ever really beat my cars.
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