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Old Oct 1, 2007 | 01:57 PM
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is it possible that u can put oil squiters in an ls botom end for a ls vtec set up?
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Old Oct 1, 2007 | 01:59 PM
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Anything is 'possible'. Practical and necessary, however...
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Old Oct 1, 2007 | 02:20 PM
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just trying to get more oil to the pistions, and i thaught it would be a good idea to add oil squiters cause i plan on adding ctr pistions with a fully built bottom end...any suggestions on getting more oil to lubrciant the pistions before i damage something..
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Old Oct 1, 2007 | 02:21 PM
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why it's not worth the money or time

it doesn't improve oiling it is there to help cool the pistons
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Old Oct 1, 2007 | 02:32 PM
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Don't run CTR pistons; opt for B16 pistons instead. No reason that a properly assembled and tuned LSVTEC should 'damage' anything.
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Old Oct 1, 2007 | 03:04 PM
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ight know iam running jdm itr pistions and the bottom end is built with acl bearings and rod bolts and its tunned. only thing i haven't changed was the connecting rods.. the reason for the oil squiters was beacause i just read a article saying how the ls bottom has a bad r/s ratio it would last do to the lack of oil squiters to cool the pistions and other b/s. i put alot of time and money into my build and don't want to blow it, iam just looking for a way to cool the pistions. you think the ctr pistions are a bad choice? iam just trying to up my comp. ratio a little more..
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Old Oct 1, 2007 | 03:24 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Lsweez &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> iam just trying to up my comp. ratio a little more.. </TD></TR></TABLE>
There are much better ways of finding power.
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Old Oct 1, 2007 | 03:38 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by b19coupe &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
There are much better ways of finding power.</TD></TR></TABLE>


ok how is this my friend i did the basics, and only thing left to do is upgrade the cams, get cam gears and degree them..but iam still worried about cooling the pistions and the bad r/s ratio that sh*t is really bugging me.
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Old Oct 1, 2007 | 04:01 PM
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the itr and gsr have almost the same r/s ratio as the ls,and the go 8500+rpms all the time. the oilsquirters wont hurt anything but if your bearing clearances are good then it will last a long time{assuming you have arp rod bolts}. also if that was the case then why do people out ls internals in gsr blocks and plug off the squirters
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Old Oct 1, 2007 | 04:10 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 4g hatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the itr and gsr have almost the same r/s ratio as the ls,and the go 8500+rpms all the time. the oilsquirters wont hurt anything but if your bearing clearances are good then it will last a long time{assuming you have arp rod bolts}. also if that was the case then why do people out ls internals in gsr blocks and plug off the squirters </TD></TR></TABLE>

good point...so basically what i read was b/s my motors good as any other well built honda motor without the oil squiters and block guard?
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Old Oct 1, 2007 | 04:15 PM
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yep, as long as your bottom end has a good blueprint and you did the rodbolts your set. theres lots of guys on here with that setup that have been running them for years
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Old Oct 1, 2007 | 04:17 PM
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and actually i have my ls-v bottom end together already ,but im running it with the ls head until the funds allow me to get my head ready.
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Old Oct 1, 2007 | 04:19 PM
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what do u mean by blueprint
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Old Oct 1, 2007 | 04:28 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Lsweez &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

good point...so basically what i read was b/s my motors good as any other well built honda motor without the oil squiters and block guard?</TD></TR></TABLE>

At what point is the ratio of rod length to stroke length considered bad? I've always wondered this.

GSR/ITR = 1.58
B18a/b, B20b/z = 1.54

So, is bad like 1.56?

Now consider what the differences between the two R/S ratios will theoretically do for your particular motor and design it with that in mind.

Theoretically, the higher R/S ratio motor will make peak power more to the right on a graph than the lower R/S ratio motor.
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Old Oct 1, 2007 | 04:38 PM
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blue print is just careful and measuring and machning of all aspect of your bottom end.
yeah a b16 has a great r/s ratio but you have to rev it to over 9000+ to make peak power and is still torqeless with no mid range, the 1.8's have a lower r/s ratio but make peak power lower and still make good mid range power/torqe.
as long as you build your motor{cams,intake,header,etc} around what it will give you the best{mid range/torqe} youll have a happy motor. that was a great point bambam
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Old Oct 1, 2007 | 04:48 PM
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as long as you build your motor{cams,intake,header,etc} around what it will give you the best{mid range/torqe} youll have a happy motor. that was a great point bambam[/QUOTE] gotcha

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bambam &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

At what point is the ratio of rod length to stroke length considered bad? I've always wondered this.

GSR/ITR = 1.58
B18a/b, B20b/z = 1.54

So, is bad like 1.56?

Now consider what the differences between the two R/S ratios will theoretically do for your particular motor and design it with that in mind.

Theoretically, the higher R/S ratio motor will make peak power more to the right on a graph than the lower R/S ratio motor.</TD></TR></TABLE> gotcha thankz
what about ctr pistions in an lsv setup thoug good or bad idea
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Old Oct 1, 2007 | 04:58 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Lsweez &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">as long as you build your motor{cams,intake,header,etc} around what it will give you the best{mid range/torqe} youll have a happy motor. that was a great point bambam</TD></TR></TABLE> gotcha

gotcha thankz
what about ctr pistions in an lsv setup thoug good or bad idea[/QUOTE]

I'm not usually a dick (at least I don't think I am), but I'm going to recommend using the search button. Honestly, this is probably the most documented topic on honda-tech. Plus, I'm off to the titty bar w/ a few of the girls so I don't have much time to respond right now...
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Old Oct 1, 2007 | 05:48 PM
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wtf... i wish i could be off to the titty bar. if only i would have stayed single. cop a feel for me
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