i got 2 12" dvc 4ohm punch p3 and i need a good budget amp to push these hard. i don't want to spend anymore than $350 i've seen the hifonics, ma audio and they told me i can run 2 kenwood amps one for each sub let me know what you guys think

 

You have two 500W subs so you need a 1x1000W RMS into 4 ohms, [or 1 ohm] mono block sub amp, stick with one that is 1000W into 4 ohms, [better SQ], finding a good 1000W amp for no more then $350 may be a problem.

You can probably get a used JL Audio 1000/1 in that price range... http://search.ebay.com/search/...earch 94

 

i was told to get the hifonics bxi 1206d or the ma audio hk1998 or 2 kenwood kac8103d or the california profile ap2000 just some suggestions i got from local shops

 

You did say "good amp", right??

The Brutus BXI1206 is 1x450W RMS into 4 ohms, you have to load it down to 1 ohm to get 1000W out of it, IMO SQ is poor at 4 ohms and terrible at 1 ohm, it is a gutless wonder... http://ampguts.realmofexcursio...1206D/

The MA Audio HK1998 is 1x600W RMS into 4 ohms, 1x1200W RMS into 2 ohms, not stable below 2 ohms... http://ampguts.realmofexcursion.com/MA_HK1998/ IMO a much better amp then the Hifonics, but will not work for you.

The Kenwood, best amp of the three IMO, but it is only 1x300W RMS into 4 ohms and 1x500W RMS into 2 ohms, also not stable below 2 ohms, you would need two of them, I do not recommend two amps unless they are "strapped" together or maybe if the subs do not share the same airspace.

You have only three options for wiring your subs, 16 ohms, [series/series] 4 ohms, [series/parallel or parallel/series] and 1 ohm, [parallel/parallel].

As I mentioned, for best SQ wire the VCs/subs in series/parallel, [VCs in series and subs in parallel] for a 4 ohm final load, and find an amp that will produce at least 1x1000W RMS into 4 ohms. 94

 

so what amp do you recomend that won't break my pocket

 

also i seen a california profile ap2000 that throws 960 watts rms x 1 at 4ohms bridged

 

whats a good 2farad cap? i've seen a tsunami not sure though

 

by the way the ma audio is 1200rms x 1 at 1ohm

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by lrcrx90 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so what amp do you recomend that won't break my pocket </TD></TR></TABLE> A used JL Audio 1000/1 is what I recommend.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by lrcrx90 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">also i seen a california profile ap2000 that throws 960 watts rms x 1 at 4ohms bridged</TD></TR></TABLE> I fail to see how an amp that makes 2x320W RMS into 4 ohms can make 1x960W RMS into 4 ohms, unless they are fudging the numbers.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by lrcrx90 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">whats a good 2farad cap? i've seen a tsunami not sure though</TD></TR></TABLE> Car audio caps are all pretty much the same, but use two 1 farad caps instead of one 2 farad cap.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by lrcrx90 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">by the way the ma audio is 1200rms x 1 at 1ohm</TD></TR></TABLE> Not according to MA Audios specs, the amp is not stable below 2 ohms...

Number of Channels: 1 - Mono
RMS Power (4 ohms): 600 watts x 1 chan.
RMS Power (2 ohms): 1200 watts x 1 chan.
RMS Power (1 ohm): Not Stable
Bridged RMS Power: Not Bridgeable
Peak Power Output: 2400 watts approx.
Min. Impedance Unbridged: 2 ohms
Min. Impedance Bridged: Not Bridgeable
THD @ Rated RMS Power: 0.05%
Speaker Level Inputs: No
Amp Preamp Outputs: Yes - 1 Pair
Built-in Crossover: Yes - HP / LP
High-Pass Crossover: 40 - 250 Hz
Low-Pass Crossover: 40 - 250 Hz
Subsonic Filter: N/A
Signal-to-Noise Ratio: 90 dB
Channel Separation: N/A
Bass Boost: 0 - 18 dB
Bass/Gain Remote: N/A
Fan Cooled: Yes
Fuse Rating: N/A
Warranty: 2-year Manufacturer's 94

 

ok number 1 the profile amp does make 960 but the key word was bridged so read again and in every wensite that they have the hk1998 it is 1200 x1 at 1ohm even in their main ma audio website

 

Whatever you say. 94

 

$350 budget is really high for a 1000w amp. For that price you can get a used Arc Audio 2500XXK but since it's a class A/B it would kill your electrical system. I have a Diamond Audio D6 1500.1 for sale that is conservatively rated at 1500w but you may blow your subs if you dont know how to install/setup correctly.

Another great amp if you could stretch your budget by $70 is the Alpine PDX-1.1000. Very small footprint, is stackable, and is rated at 1000w at both 2 ohm and 4 ohm loads. I would get higher end drivers before I got any of these amps though.

Crossfire VR1000D, Kicker 1000.1, Orion 1200D, Older JBL BP1200.1, and more. Profile are good budget amps and the ratings are a little overrated but good none the less. Planet Audio is also decent. Instead of the caps, upgrade your electrical by doing the Big 3 first using at least 4 gauge wire throughout.





Modified by johnson816 at 10:04 AM 10/2/2007

 

ive also got 2 p3's in a RF box. im using RF amps to push each one 2 P3001's. hits hard. find a couple used on ebay and ur set.

 

get this... 1000x1 @ 1 ohm $199 shipped

reg $689

http://www.cadencestore.com/Pr...t=380

and dont worry about the 4 ohm vs 1 ohm. for sub applications, you wont hear any difference.

i have one, killer for the $

 

Could get a Punch 150 25 to life amp.

http://www.millionbuy.com/rocpunch150.html




Just run it 2 ohm stereo, or 4 ohm mono. Should be good for around 900 watts according to some of the birth sheets I have seen posted.

But I am just a sucker for nostalgia, and love the classic looks. My 2 Punch 45 25 to life amps put out around 300 watts according to the sheets. Much better than the Aura 2150's they replaced....and I was happy with the Aura's, so that was a happy suprise.

 

or also may i recommend MTX thunder amps the olders series try finding an MTX 1000D should be around 250$$ on ebay used. or an Alpine v12

 

You mentioned a Profile amp. The thread needs to end right there.

 

what the hell is wrong with profile their amps aren't that bad

 

Neither is Jensen.

 

i've had jensen and profile and honestly jensen is garbage

 

IMO both of these two are garbage, i could build a better one out of toothpicks and
vacuum tubes!

 

i guess your user name suits you slowsohcvtec cause you really are slow with that dumbass post anyways enough with this thread

 

my vote is the alpine mrd-m1005. http://www.woofersetc.com/inde...=2462

 

Never heard of "PROFILE".