I know this has been covered before, but i put it into the search and got nothing. Anyone out there running either of these with there turbo set up? Or maybe have ran both? Which is easier to work with and which would you recommend and why...

 

On this forum, you'll receive:

13 "I love my KPro" replies
6 "kpro " replies
2 "kpro ftmfw" replies from people who don't even own a k-series
2 secondary threadjack attempt questions regarding hondata

I recommend AEM all day every day.

 

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1860603

next time search the archived content.

The general consensus is kpro is more easier to work with however the aem ems very powerful and is more than capable to make power on the k-series motor. If you are getting a tuner to tune your car ask him which he prefers or suggests.

I went with HKS FCON VPRO because my tuner is most comfortable with it and believes he can make more power with the FCON. He has used Kpro before and is not a fan but did make great power with it dynotuning.

Kpro is loved by almost everyone because they were the 1st to come with an ems system for the k-series motor.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by scott@kinsler &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">On this forum, you'll receive:

13 "I love my KPro" replies
6 "kpro " replies
2 "kpro ftmfw" replies from people who don't even own a k-series
2 secondary threadjack attempt questions regarding hondata

I recommend AEM all day every day.
</TD></TR></TABLE> haha that made me laff cuz its so true.

 

K-PRo FTMFW.

 

Go with whatever you feel or think you can make the most power from.

I know one of the sport compact pro's he is sponsered by AEM and uses Kpro.. i laughed when i heard that.

i prefer kpro as it's less pain in the ***.

 

From what im hearing KPro is the easiest to use and AEM EMS being the most difficult.

 

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If you are looking for maximum power it doesn't matter which one is easier to use. Its what your tuner can get the most power from.

 

Plus you need to install additional sensors to run aem ems. With the ems, sensors, tune you're looking at $2000

 

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Swap the stock NTK with a supplied Bosch O2 sensor. It's not very hard.

I do highly recommend purchasing a wide band box instead of integrating a wide band gauge into a non-wide band box. Ground resistance differences between the gauge and EMS can cause a difference in the A/F displays between the gauge and laptop. I'm talking .1 or .2 off, but I'm **** so it bugs me.

Stand alone management isn't for everyone. You really have to have a thorough comprehension of engine dynamics to get the most out of it, or you can really mess things up. You'll struggle with any management system if you don't learn the software correctly. Because the EMS is capable of more, there's more to learn.

I've been making 25% more power, +2 mpg with a 1070U for the last 25,000 miles with no EMS related issues. Thanks Devin - even though you never come in here.

 

i wish Kpro was out for the fg2. thats what i am waiting for

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by scott@kinsler &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">On this forum, you'll receive:

13 "I love my KPro" replies
6 "kpro " replies
2 "kpro ftmfw" replies from people who don't even own a k-series
2 secondary threadjack attempt questions regarding hondata
</TD></TR></TABLE> you've mentioned all the ones i was going to say

 

but. you forgot to mention

"DO SOME RESEARCH"

...IMO, people say do some research when they can't answer the question. cuz they have nothing better to do except be asses all day. im pretty sure some people can answer the question but just enjoy being ********.

who knows..just an opinion


anyways...

K-pro, no worries, stable, easier, same shiat, just easier to use

 

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So, not tru. I purchased my 1st aem ems off HT for 550. All i needed was a jumper harness to make it work. So total of 625 got me a total and complete ems. You don't need to purchase additional sensors with aem. The gr8 thing about aem is you can use any sensor. All you do is calibrate and use it. Wide band is a definite requirement when tuning. But, isn't that tru with any management system. Your going to need a wide band with all of them so who gives a whoop.

Aem FTW: but its tru go with what your tuner feels most comfortable using.

 

I love both systems and both have great potential to make loads of power and both are easy to navigate and tunr, but the only downside to using the AEM EMS is that is does not allow the factory water temp gauge, or the heater / ac controls to work without some serious re-wiring.

stick with the K-Pro and it truely is a plug-n-play unit. i use a K-Pro and im very happy.

 

most people have less issues tuning with kpro, but aem ems can be used but is harder to tune with.....just like everyone else said =P

 

I have had experience and tuned both systems. I prefer and personally use the AEM, and love the fact that I do not have to go through individually tuning 0, 10, 20, 40, 50 cam angles for ignition, fuel, on and off vtec...that process is quite simplified with the AEM, and my customer's wallets thank me. BTW, AEM setups do not cost 2k.

 

you will not make more or less power with either ... maps are maps .. full standalones are so similar (aem kpro) its the motor thats making the power .. i use kpro because there is alot more people using it and it is easier to get info about on the forums .. aem is to in depth for me and in my eyes os more of a race application ... sorry i havent replied to your PM'S i work to much

 

LoL. No problem. I don't even remember what the PM was about. This thread just won't die. I think I'm just going to get the KPro mainly because I heard alot of people having problems getting the EMS to work on their cars properly.

 

use which ever your dyno operator knows best


P.S.

I prefer the AEM unit, but Hondatacrap is more user friendly

 

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P.S.

I prefer the AEM unit, but Hondatacrap is more user friendly</TD></TR></TABLE>

That's your personal opinion. i don't think hondata is crap especially for what they've proven and have done.