i'm helping my friend (xplictef) with a B16a1 swap into his new 91ls ef sedan. we use the intermetate shaft, and the cv shaft from the B16 and once it's in the hub, the ball joint is about an inch out too much; like the cv shaft is too long or something so it won't drop into the LCA. anyone ever run into a problem like this? any help would be great

 

I believe you can only use the int. shaft from a DA

that may be the issue

 

what intermediate shaft are you using??? which axle are you talking about, left or right? are you sure the axle is going all the way into the intermediate shaft/differential???

 

Sounds like you either pulled the bearing out of the housing or you are using the wrong int. shaft. Even w/ the wrong int. shaft it usually bolts up. Disassemble the axle inner boot and id bet you pulled out the bearings.

Side note* You removed the bearing ring on the inside of the hub right?

 

^as far as i know, we diden't remove that bearing ring. see what we are doing, is pulling the B16 out of his 89 ef sedan, and dropping it into a 91 ef sedan that had a b16 in it (but it was pooched.) we are using the motor and inter.shaft and axle that was in the 89; is it possible that the hubs are different? should i remove the bearing ring? thanks alot for the help, my friend needs his car running

 

i ran into a some what similar problem i was running the jdm b16 axles and intermeiate shaft with the b16 i got from hmotors in my hatch. well when i broke a driver side axle i tried to use a usdm 91 integra axle (non abs). it ended up being and inch longer then the jdm and was pinching at the boot by the hub. causeing a bad vinration and clunking (only drove it out the drive way then back in)

 

the dust rings on the hub have to be taken off.

 

ok, cool, thanks for the help guys. do you normally have to take off these dust rings inorder to fit them, when dropping in a B16 in an ef?

 

If it came from one EF that worked into another it should be fine. Yes you need to pull the dust ring off. See my picture I posted. This may just make it short enough. If it doesnt then,check the inner bearing. Id bet it was pulled out when you were removing it from the old half shaft. As long as the axle fits inside the grooves in the hub and sticks out the other end,you should be fine. Some old model DX's have smaller hubs that need to be changed out but your shouldnt. Let us know what happens

 

if both cars where already swapped you shouldn't have a problem and the dust rings are prolly already removed. I'm with IMALLSLO and the bearing is out.

 

see that's what i'm having a hard time figuring out, if the dust ring was still on the hub then it woulden't have fit before(maybe?) . but just to clairify, the bearing that might be out would be in the inner boot of the CV shaft (the end that goes into the inter.shaft) right?

i even went so far as pulling the axle back out and measuring it against the old one that came on the car and they were the exact same length?

and if it is the bearing inside of the inner boot of the cv shaft, then i would have to take apart that boot right? or how would i go about fixing that?

 

Removing the boot is the only way to repair a bearing. The outer boot (near the hub)would have not come apart. Its locked in with a locking ring)I suspect you pulled the inner bearings out(the one that goes to the int. shaft). Feel around the outside of the boot. You should'nt be able to feel anything to bulky. You may even feel a bearing. You should be able to move the inner shaft in and out freely without stressing the boot. Id expect at least and inch of play. If it feels like the shaft isnt moving and no extra play,then you have pulled the bearing out. If it feels normal then we have another issue. The ring has been removed already?

 

^hey just showed up at my friends house, i'm about to pull the axle and see what's going on. i hope it's the dust ring. brb.

edit: this is flexin5 posting..lol

 

ok, so no dust ring on the hub, and the shaft seems to be intact. i can't feel a bearing in there and i do have play in the inner cv boot?

 

also, the damn B16 won't fire....weirdest thing, right firing order, timed, fuel and spark...but nothing.

 

Is the intermediat shaft intot the trans all the way?

 

Quite possibly you have the wrong axle/half shaft combo. Despite it being in your buddies car,there couldnt be any other explanation. What number does it say on the half shaft SH3?
As far as the no start goes,your pretty much on your own with that one. You have fuel and spark,timings on,right firing order,it should start.

 

i used all da ls parts, inter shaft and axels and everything lined right up with no problems and i dont remember talking off the dust rings but i did do this about 2 years ago so i could be wrong

 

do you have the correct axles in the correct side?

 

i believe we do, we never took out the passenger axle's and only swapped both the driver's side from the two cars. the only thing i can think of was that the new axle (out of the old car) was one of those re-manufactured ones; and it looks like on one part of the shaft that it's thicker than the honda part. i'll get pics up comparing the two up soon.

as for it not starting, the new car had some hack *** job of wiring; even tho we diden't use that ecu or motor, i'm not sure if something is left out, but the motor would still start