I lowered my car about 2 months ago. Now my rear tires are wearing out super fast on the inside. What can I do to fix this, because I am planning on replacing all four tires really soon, and don't want the same to happen to my new ones. Are there any rear Lower Control Arms that can help this? Thanks for your help

 

get an alignment duh

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by n1_egsex &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">get an alignment duh</TD></TR></TABLE>
+1

 

I thought only the front could be adjusted on the eg's?

 

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OMG, HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!

Ahem, sorry. Okay, a good, full adjustable camber kit, front and back (I recommend Skunk2) will allow alignment services to go more smoothly, and provide better results. Simply put, that will fix your problem.

 

sorry i didnt know u said rear tires..how much did u lower your car?normally rear tires wont have the camber wear..

 

I lowered it 2 inches front and rear
and will my local honda dealer be able to install, and perform the alignment with the skunk 2 camber kit??

 

Just want to back up Blackout...That is what you need. Adjustable camber links

Then get an alignment. You can have the alignment done with the old tires on there because they use the rim's to measure not the tires.

 

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and will my local honda dealer be able to install, and perform the alignment with the skunk 2 camber kit??</TD></TR></TABLE>

Any standard wheel and tire place ought to be able to. Also, it would be best, since they'll need to know what they are adjusting. I had a shop put on, and align my camber kit. Haven't had uneven wear since.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by thesmogman &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Just want to back up Blackout...That is what you need. Adjustable camber links

Then get an alignment. You can have the alignment done with the old tires on there because they use the rim's to measure not the tires.</TD></TR></TABLE>

 

i put washers in the rear on my car and a camber kit up front. if your car is too low or even sometimes jujst dropped a bit, the dealer and some shops might not do your alignment. bring it to a shop that specializes in lowering cars and have an alignment machine

 

Get front and rear Skunk2 camber kits...go to a place that can install and align your car...get a tow adjustment while you're at it.


Did you not notice that your wheels/tires moved inwards at the top when you lowered the car?

 

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Yes, the washer trick works, and it's an old one in the books.

OP - If you're constantly needing to change rims in sizes, you should get an Ingalls rear or (brand) for adjustability. The fronts will wear out fast, so you might as well get them for all four tires.

 

its the negative toe that might be wearing out your tires...camber doesnt do **** in the back because its not moving the car... the front wheels (lsd?) are moving the car, fwd

 

get a rear camber kit


or use the washer trick

 

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OMG, HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!

Ahem, sorry. Okay, a good, full adjustable camber kit, front and back (I recommend Skunk2) will allow alignment services to go more smoothly, and provide better results. Simply put, that will fix your problem.</TD></TR></TABLE>

or you could just fix the toe. Camber will only MINIMALLY wear tires....unless you're doing burn outs. Camber helps you control your car..which should be the reason you lowered it in the first place. If you're getting a camber kit to just cancel out your camber totally and make it 0...you just wasted your money 2 different ways. Unless you're drag racing and you need a big contact patch.

Who's laughing now, blackoutvti?!!

Camber kits are good if you know how to tune a suspension, though. Most people dont. I do. It's cuz im better than everyone.

 

Alignment involves adjusting toe last I checked. I also mentioned that a fully adjustable camber kit will allow alignment services to go more smoothly.

Also, lowering the car is mainly to lower the car's center of gravity, and the stiffer suspension is to reduce body roll. Yes, we all know that toe affects tire wear, thus the advice to get an alignment. Camber kit's aren't to zero out camber, dude. They're to eliminate excessive camber, which still causes uneven wear, no matter how you slice it, so let's not turn this into a camber vs toe argument. They both negatively affect tire wear. No need to get offensive.

I was merely laughing at the fact that this was a question about why this dude's tires were wearing when lowering a car without a camber kit or an alignment. Just seemed obvious to me, but I was still willing to help him out.


Modified by BlackoutVTi at 12:57 AM 9/22/2007

 

Camber kit is not necessary, although as BlackoutVTi mentioned, it could allow the alignment services move along smoothly. Get an alignment ASAP, it's worth every penny. Go to any local wheel/tire shop ask them if they do alignments, this will cost anywhere from 40-80 depending on your location.

Everytime you mess with suspension (including adjusting ride height), it's time to get an alignment.

 

Could be toe as well as camber. My mate wore out his set of fronts in like a month and realised his wheels were pointing inwards by 3degrees. If anything the front should be wearing faster than the rears so something is definitely wrong. As everyone else as said already, wheel alignment

 

watch our for some of the after market camber kits out there... sometimes if your car is too low the top part of the camber kit where the alan head adjustment bolts are will slam into the top of the shock tower and leave nice big dents... so look for camber kits that dont have those big bulky adjustment bolts

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BlackoutVTi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Alignment involves adjusting toe last I checked. I also mentioned that a fully adjustable camber kit will allow alignment services to go more smoothly.

Also, lowering the car is mainly to lower the car's center of gravity, and the stiffer suspension is to reduce body roll. Yes, we all know that toe affects tire wear, thus the advice to get an alignment. Camber kit's aren't to zero out camber, dude. They're to eliminate excessive camber, which still causes uneven wear, no matter how you slice it, so let's not turn this into a camber vs toe argument. They both negatively affect tire wear. No need to get offensive.

I was merely laughing at the fact that this was a question about why this dude's tires were wearing when lowering a car without a camber kit or an alignment. Just seemed obvious to me, but I was still willing to help him out.


Modified by BlackoutVTi at 12:57 AM 9/22/2007</TD></TR></TABLE>

lol dude i was just kidding around with the "who's laughing now" comment.

Camber kits dont make the alignment go more smoothly. You can fix toe without touching camber. I could show a pic of my 99 hatch that i used to have. It had a TON of camber. I just never wanted to buy a camber kit. Even treadwear always. I just fixed the toe.

 

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that's because when you change the camber angle, you change the toe angle. You can fix JUST the toe angle and leave camber alone...you probably wont see any uneven wear unless you're doing a lot of burn outs.

Know how i know toe is the leading cause of wear? Because even if you had absolutely 0 camber...if you had even a 1/4'' toe in/out, you would wear the **** out of your tires. Stock S2000s have about .24'' of toe in in the rear and about .30 degrees negative camber stock, i think. It's not uncommon for S2000s to wear tires in 10k miles. Mine goes thru tires like they're going out of style. lol but then again...mine's not stock either.

 

Lol, I understand dude. Well, it seems you've gotten some good results from your experience with alignment. I was only speaking from my experience, where the shops were having a hard time eliminating the uneven treadwear, which was stated to be caused by excessively negative camber, until I finally just decided to get a fully adjustable camber kit. Ever since then I've had nice even tread life.

Anywho, I understand where you're coming from. I'd like to think that both of our inputs are valid, given our experiences.

 

i used to do alignments all day, no need for fancy rear camber kits. washers/shims would do the same trick and just as accurate, just depends on the mechanic skill to make things work.

 

2 inches isn't much. I wouldn't worry about a camber kit, just get your toe set to 0.

 

i dont think the toe is adjustable on those cars. and if you lowered it then had a problem its deff bad camber. use the washer trick for sure. it cheap and it works. but arent the front wearing as well, or do you have a camber kit on the front?