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Old Sep 20, 2007 | 08:39 AM
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So I'm gonna put a ZC with boost in my coupe as a full upgrade i have to make since someone sideswiped my car. I'm due to drop it off at the shop next week, and when i see it again, it will be swapped, painted(full color-change), RHD.

Only question is, is there any problem retaining AC/PS with a ZC in a EK?
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Old Sep 20, 2007 | 06:15 PM
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nothing?
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Old Sep 20, 2007 | 06:18 PM
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zc = bad idea. Pick a motor that you can find parts for.

No, retaining ac/ps should be simple. Though with our small cars I don't see why anyone would keep ps on a "performance" car that's so easy to turn and park without it.
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Old Sep 20, 2007 | 06:45 PM
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dohc zc is not a bad motor.. 15lbs on stock internals.. only motor to do it..

and btw i had ac in my crx which is a hella lot smaller bay then a civic..

listen man get a safc.. and dyno tune it and 10psi... i rolled around like that for a good 2 months with no damn problems.. then i sold it
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Old Sep 20, 2007 | 06:45 PM
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there are tons of parts available for the dohc zc. you just gotta know where to look.
yeah there aren't tons of parts on ebay or autozone, but there are top name companies that make parts for them.

now a zc in an ek =
there was someone on here that did that swap, but i forget his name.
i have a zc in my crx cause it's cheap and a direct fit. you can get an b18b for a little more then a zc and would be a better choice.
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Old Sep 20, 2007 | 06:51 PM
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it's an awesome motor.

Finding parts is what's hard. All I said.

And I agree, an obd0 motor in an obd2 car?

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Old Sep 20, 2007 | 06:54 PM
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http://www.jgenginedynamics.com

all the honda parts you will ever need for any motor any where
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Old Sep 20, 2007 | 07:12 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jdm91CrxSi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">dohc zc is not a bad motor.. 15lbs on stock internals.. only motor to do it..

and btw i had ac in my crx which is a hella lot smaller bay then a civic..

listen man get a safc.. and dyno tune it and 10psi... i rolled around like that for a good 2 months with no damn problems.. then i sold it
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i'm gonna have to disagree with you there....a zc is not the only motor that can handle 15 psi on stock internals, i personally know a kid that is making over 400 whp on a gt35r turbo at 18 psi on a stock b16 bottom end...there are many other good candidates for boost...also when taking that into account you have to also think about what kind of turbo it is...keep in mind that 10 psi on a T25 is a considerable amount of less boost than say the gt35r so to say a motor can handle 15 psi is a very open judgement.

as for tuning with an SAFC or some other hack like that i don't recommend it at all, use Crome, Uberdata, or even Hondata if you're into spending some money. IMHO there is no piggyback system that can touch a chipped ECU.
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Old Sep 20, 2007 | 10:44 PM
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Thanks for the feedback.

I'm doing ZC for the following reasons.

1. cheap motor, if it blows up, whatever.
2. EX trannies are a dime/dozen.
3. Its still d series parts, most people give that **** away
4. I've had one, its my favorite D-series compatible motor
5. since I have to do bodywork and RHD, expletive spending $3000 to run 15's I've done a B16 swap(among others) in the past, I cant even justify that kinda money to run 15's. Turbo ZC would be cheaper and quicker.

Tuning would be a chipped ECU, and the car/motor would be converted to OBD1. Pretty sure some dizzy can be made to fit. Or at last chance, I'll buy that expensive one for the OBD1 DOHC ZC EG5 Civic.

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Old Sep 21, 2007 | 03:12 AM
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For an extra $100-$200 you could get a b18b and make even more power with more reliability.

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Old Sep 21, 2007 | 03:28 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Rude Awakening &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Thanks for the feedback.

I'm doing ZC for the following reasons.

1. cheap motor, if it blows up, whatever.
2. EX trannies are a dime/dozen.
3. Its still d series parts, most people give that **** away
4. I've had one, its my favorite D-series compatible motor
5. since I have to do bodywork and RHD, expletive spending $3000 to run 15's I've done a B16 swap(among others) in the past, I cant even justify that kinda money to run 15's. Turbo ZC would be cheaper and quicker.

Tuning would be a chipped ECU, and the car/motor would be converted to OBD1. Pretty sure some dizzy can be made to fit. Or at last chance, I'll buy that expensive one for the OBD1 DOHC ZC EG5 Civic.


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The ZC also came in a Obd1 model..
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Old Sep 21, 2007 | 09:24 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Rude Awakening &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
3. Its still d series parts, most people give that **** away
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you have to be careful with that thinking.
most d series parts do not interchange with it.
even the headers don't fit perfect. you have to grind away the ports a little to make them line up.

and spending $500+ with the thought that if it blows it was cheap anyway is crazy.
why don't you just drop a d16 in it then when you finish this RHD conversion drop a b16/b18b in it. there is no reason to buy a cheap motor now when you have all that work to do.
i know that people build their cars for them self and i agree with that, but if you are gonna spend the time and money to do a RHD conversion why not spend the money on a better motor (i like zc motors but for your car there are better motors)
when you show up to the meet with a RHD ek with a zc in it people will laugh.
now remember "do what you want, it's your car" but you should do it right.

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Old Sep 21, 2007 | 12:47 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jayjay &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

The ZC also came in a Obd1 model..</TD></TR></TABLE>

I know:

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Rude Awakening &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Thanks for the feedback.

Tuning would be a chipped ECU, and the car/motor would be converted to OBD1. Pretty sure some dizzy can be made to fit. Or at last chance, I'll buy that expensive one for the OBD1 DOHC ZC EG5 Civic.

</TD></TR></TABLE>

Guys I have a power goal, and I dont need a LS for it. That extra mounts, axles, starter, axles, ect, ect. And the EX gearing is basically the same a LS trans. I can make the power I want, and have the same gearing.

And I haven't gone to a meet in 2 years. ***** gay, atleast around here.
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Old Sep 21, 2007 | 01:41 PM
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why swap the dohc zc? is the current motor toast because if it is you can get a sohc zc vtec which is just like a z6. or you can build your current engine and boost it too. if you really want a dohc, get an ls with b16 trans and boost... lastly i doubt your car is an EK, maybe an EJ, but not an EK
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