ok. i have an ej8, lowered with kyb agx and h&r sport. i lowered my car about a week already. the front dropped 2inches, rear 1.8inches. i am gonna get the alignment done. but before i do it , i would like to know do i need any camber kits? cause i dont want to replace my tires every coupe months...

what do you guys think?

thanks

 

No just get that alignment done asap, and make sure they bring TOE as close to zero at all 4 corners as possible. That will save your tires.

 

yep just do an alignment and do what pic said to get your toe zeroed out as much as possible. for me my integra the rear factory spec was something like .06 degrees toe out for the rear, presumably for high speed stability. front toe should be exactly zero.

then just rotate your tires at recommended intervals.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ez12a &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yep just do an alignment and do what pic said to get your toe zeroed out as much as possible. for me my integra the rear factory spec was something like .06 degrees toe out for the rear, presumably for high speed stability. front toe should be exactly zero.

then just rotate your tires at recommended intervals. </TD></TR></TABLE>


Any reason on why one would advise against using a camber kit(front and rear)?

 

Toe is the main cause of tire death.

never said you "shouldn't" get one. Its just not absolutely necessary. I just have the ingalls washer kit in the rear.

running -1.4 deg camber up front, 0 front toe, -1 camber rear .07 toe. NO wear problems. been driving over 800 miles in 3 weeks with brand new ziex tires mounted right after the alignment i can still see the stubs for the mold in the rear.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ez12a &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Toe is the main cause of tire death.

never said you "shouldn't" get one. Its just not absolutely necessary. I just have the ingalls washer kit in the rear.

running -1.4 deg camber up front, 0 front toe, -1 camber rear .07 toe. NO wear problems. been driving over 800 miles in 3 weeks with brand new ziex tires mounted right after the alignment i can still see the stubs for the mold in the rear. </TD></TR></TABLE>

ahh...ok

just learning more about suspension

 

we're all here to learn.

 

so.. i wont mess up my tires even the treadwear is 220? (my brand new tires just received 2 days ago :] )

 

i got falken ziex 512 rated at 360, V speed rated and experienced no issues to date.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jredhonn &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so.. i wont mess up my tires even the treadwear is 220? (my brand new tires just received 2 days ago :] )</TD></TR></TABLE>

I'll volunteer myself as the extreme example.

00 GSR
-4.0* front camber, -1.4* rear camber
0* front toe, factory rear toe in (forget exact number)
No, thats not a typo. -4.0* of camber. Its for autocross (heavy car + soft suspension + high ride height = lots of dynamic camber lost = lots of static camber needed to compensate), and its more than I really need (asked for -3.2*, haven't bothered to fix).

Had this alignment for 1 year now, and my tires are about 1/4 worn, measured with a tread depth gauge, and I have nearly even wear across the entire tread surface.

In fact, I'm wearing the outside shoulders slightly faster than the center and inside sections (1/32" difference), which is the opposite of what "camber wear" is supposed to produce. This is measuring the street tires, I run different ones to tear up during autocross.

Only point is, if I don't see "camber wear", or unusually fast tire wear, with my excessive alignment, you should be fine if you get the toe set correctly with what little camber that mild lowering will provide.

 

ok then, i will bring my car to alignment shop asap. thank you for the inputs people ;]

 

Yeah get the alignment first. I have the Firestone unlimited alignment plan and get the Toe set to near-zero about once every 6K. They and other shops offer $119.00 specials for unlimited alignment packages... good for as long as you own the car. I also suggest rotating your tires every 4-6K.

I am in the minority to recommend a camber kit ONLY if the following have been addressed first:
1. Alignment
2. Replacement of worn or underperforming suspension parts (e.g. cracked bushings, worn shocks, bent trailing arms, little to no suspension travel).


Modified by Design at 9:16 PM 9/20/2007

 

but then you need another alignment if you install your camber kit post initial alignment.

get unlimited alignments then. Some shops check for worn parts before doing an alignment.