hey guys did a quick search after noticing today that you are able to just take the shifter out of gear even when car is on and moving. i read on another post that it's normal that this happens but is it ok to be doing it? will it damage anything inside the tranny like maybe the clutch or the gear itself?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by civic710 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hey guys did a quick search after noticing today that you are able to just take the shifter out of gear even when car is on and moving. i read on another post that it's normal that this happens but is it ok to be doing it? will it damage anything inside the tranny like maybe the clutch or the gear itself?</TD></TR></TABLE>

What purpose would one have to do that often?

 

That is pretty much the basis for a manual transmission is it not?
Removing out of the gear while the car is in motion....

whether you choose to put it in a gear up.... gear down... or Neutral....

Where is the dilemma here?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Type X &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">That is pretty much the basis for a manual transmission is it not?
Removing out of the gear while the car is in motion....

whether you choose to put it in a gear up.... gear down... or Neutral....

Where is the dilemma here? </TD></TR></TABLE>

I made the assumption that he meant without depressing the clutch.

 

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I made the assumption that he meant without depressing the clutch.</TD></TR></TABLE>


Vague thread does not a good one make.

 

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Vague thread does not a good one make.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Thank you for your insight wise Yoda

 

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Thank you for your insight wise Yoda </TD></TR></TABLE>

LMAO. exactly what I was thinkin'

and to the OP:

"When upshifting, the speed of the gear driven by the engine had to drop to match the speed of the next gear; as this happened naturally when the clutch was depressed or disengaged, it was just a matter of skill and experience to hear and feel when the gears managed to mesh. However, when downshifting, the gear driven by the engine had to be sped up to mesh with the output gear, requiring letting the clutch up (engagement) for the engine to speed up the gears. Double declutching, that is, shifting once to neutral to speed up the gears and again to the lower gear, is sometimes needed. In fact, such transmissions are often easier to shift without using the clutch at all. When using this method, the driver has to time the shift with relative precision to avoid grinding the gears. The clutch, in these cases, is only used for starting from a standstill. This procedure is common in racing vehicles and most production motorcycles."

potentially you could drive the car only using the clutch to start in 1st. A great way to ruin a transmission if you don't know what you're doing though, but also a great way to make it home on a blown clutch

 

if moving slowly u can remove the shifter from gear withOUT pressing hte clutch in. i called honda and they told me it was normal for it to come OUT of gear at a low speed. if u can get IN gear without pressing the clutch, u have a problem

 

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You can get it in gear without the clutch without a problem, simply by rev matching. I am unsure of the consequences long-term, but as long as you don't grind every shift I can't see much issue.

 

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You can get it in gear without the clutch without a problem, simply by rev matching. I am unsure of the consequences long-term, but as long as you don't grind every shift I can't see much issue.</TD></TR></TABLE>

 

i meant going out of gear when you're already in gear without using the clutch. not driving without using the clutch.