i.e. the Civic Type R and compares it to the Integra Type R

this is what they had to say:

We love the original Integra Type-R. That's why we proclaimed it the greatest front-drive performance car of all time, and why we couldn't resist getting one along to meet the newest Honda to wear the Type-R badge.

The first thing you notice is how small, low and sleek the DC2 Integra is. Compared with the bulky-looking four-door it's almost dainty. You sit low and enjoy a real sense of intimacy after the cave-like space in the saloon. You also sit close to the screen, the lack of depth to the dashboard and the relative thinness of the door panels betraying the Integra's age, while the Recaros hold you in place brilliantly.

The dash is simple and conventional with none of the Civic's sci-fi styling and advanced ergonomics. Old fashioned it may be, but there's little to touch the Integra's cluster of analogue dials for clarity. Look in the rear-view mirror and the views are the same, a big phat slice of wing cutting through your field of vision.

Though it's obvious a decade of development stands between the two Type Rs, dynamic similarities abound. There's that same slight numbness to the first few degrees of steering input, and the same flaccid calm before the VTEC storm. Allow yourself to get becalmed in the wrong gear at the wrong revs and you almost feel like drumming your fingers impatiently on the steering wheel, such is the time it takes for the 1.8-litre engine to start simmering. Of course, once the VTEC does its magic at 6000 rpm or so the engine erupts, but if there's one area where you can feel the progress it's in the new car's ability to muster more useful low and mid-range response.

Chassis-wise, the Integra is softer than the Civic, though not by much. The benefit is that it manages to settle more willingly at low speed and seems to flow more when you're making brisk rather than flat-out progress, although it can't quite summon the sheer grip or speed of response of the new car.

What continues to impress is the Integra's tenacity. Though admittedly there's not much in the way of torque to deal with, the Integra always feels as though it's putting every crumb of power into the tarmac, and it allows you to carry as much of that hard-won momentum as possible through every corner, thanks to a remarkably elastic yet forgiving and exploitable limit. The CTR carries more speed but its limits are more sharply defined, and though we'll have to wait for a longer drive to confirm it, it's unlikely to share the Integra's uniquely satisfying fluidity.

So the oldie remains a goodie, but having criticised Honda for selling the original Civic Type-R and it recent hatchback successor's soul to the marketing devil, it's reassuring to see that Honda's men in white coats (as opposed to those in fancy suits) haven't sold out. The inspirational qualities that led us to love the original Integra are still there to be enjoyed in the exceptional four-door Civic Type-R."


There you go fanbois --- more ammo!!

Integra Type R FTMFW!


More of the article can be found here:

http://www.evo.co.uk/carreview....html

BPR - who is sad to learn Colin McRae is dead


Modified by Big Phat R at 3:07 PM 9/18/2007

 

Nice find


I'm leaving work right now and will finish reading it when I get home

<---- just wanted to write first reply haha

 

I :heart: the new CTR 4 door .

 

Confirms what we already expected. DC2R will never die.

 

for sharing! I love both cars and wish they would bring that 4 door Civic R stateside

 

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or sum will just keep it alive

 

the Euro CTR is fugly but the JDM CTR sedan is badass!

 

nice read, reminds me of this pic:

 

I saw that article when checkin out car mags at Barnes and Noble!!! I flipped when I this!!!

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Love that picture...

 

Decades apart and so little differences. Goes to show you how advance the DC2 was for its time

 

Thanks for such great high lites!
Can someone show me this issue cover so I can send one of by tech geeks at my work to B&N.

 

I like the new 4 door CTR a lot. but the DC2 is once again hard to beat and way before its time.

best FWD car 4 lyfe

 

very nice! will always love the ITR

on a side note, sad to see a rally legend go. RIP Colin McRae

 

I hope Honda makes another R in the not too distant future. Just like the ITR or even better.

 

The new Civic Type R is awesome. I got the chance to play with one Still there is something about 4 doors ...

 

my friend brought me that magazine from France

good read

 

issue 108

http://www.evo.co.uk/news/evon....html

 

^^^^^

that one, #108

 

honda should reproduce the DC2-R as an anniversary edition for one year but drop an engine in it with like 300hp and call it hondas greatest car ever

 

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no joke, i would order one ASAP if that ever did happen

 

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Can not go backward, must move on to new ideas & concept or you end up like stupid Ford Mustang in just pressing out the same old dinosaur car in plastic.

 

hmmm, ima see if i can pick this up on my way home tonight

 

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hahaha!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by floatfisher &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">honda should reproduce the DC2-R as an anniversary edition for one year but drop an engine in it with like 300hp and call it hondas greatest car ever </TD></TR></TABLE>Would be nice....Insurance and theft rate....OUT THE ROOF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!