is it to much trouble to swap a k20 into a del sol or should i just swap a b16 into it?

 

a k swap costs more money than a b series swap. more time consuming and labor and parts..people said it will cost around 10k to complete the k swap

 

yeah, approx 10k, and you'll have a factory dependable 210hp 150lbs trq.

the question is, is that all you want to do?

if you want to boost, there's no reason to go K.

 

b16 will still be fun, especially if you boost it. K swap is quick but IMO mainly for bragging rights because not many people have it. Get the b16 and spend the extra cash you would've spend on putting the k series in your del sol on boost or other things.

 

the b16 and k20 are not even comparable if you're just trying to decide which one you want....unless you're made out of money or have very rich parents. Practical would be a B16 with boost. In fact, you could fully build a b16 and boost it and still be cheaper than a stock K. Why does everyone love the K20 again?

 

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amen brother

 

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Haha... exactly. For the everyday Honda owner that is trying to get the most hp for the $$$, you are better off going with a B16-T, B18c-T, or B18b1-T. It will be a better swap in few years when the prices drop, but not right now.

 

everyone loves it because the K20 comes attached to a 6 speed trans.

 

LOTS and LOTS of money in a k swap...i know bcuzz im building one

 

Hey now, and don't forget you can build and boost a D-series for close to the cost of a B-swap!

 

put in the k if you have the cash man. I dig bragging rights and dependability. That's just me.

 

What's going to let you brag more? 500 WHP on a D-series, or a stock K-series.

I'm thinking the 10-second honda (500/D).

 

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Umm... that is not why. It could possibly be because its a larger displacement motor pushing 200hp stock. It responds well to bolts on and is very reliable, as all honda motors are, because its stock. Its just the price tag that turns people away. I cant blame them. For the price of a K you can build a D or B and make more whp. It wont be as reliable as the stock motor, but I think many can overlook that part of it.

 

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Umm... that is not why. It could possibly be because its a larger displacement motor pushing 200hp stock. It responds well to bolts on and is very reliable, as all honda motors are, because its stock. Its just the price tag that turns people away. I cant blame them. For the price of a K you can build a D or B and make more whp. It wont be as reliable as the stock motor, but I think many can overlook that part of it. </TD></TR></TABLE>

QFT, and that being said, most people get along fine with built/boosted daily driven cars. Good tune.....

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by instrument &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yeah, approx 10k, and you'll have a factory dependable 210hp 150lbs trq.

the question is, is that all you want to do?

if you want to boost, there's no reason to go K.</TD></TR></TABLE>

With 10 grand you should at least have a nice header, air intake, RBC intake manifold, Kpro, and maybe even a nice set of cams. You WILL have more than 210hp and 150trq. Some guys hit around 220-230whp and 160trq with a RBC, header, Kpro, intake, and tune on stock internals. If you search around and find good deals and should be able to do it for 7-8 grand.

If you want more info on K series swaps, go to http://K20A.org

Remember though, K swaps are not for everyone

 

^^^I think i'd anyone would be retarded if they spent 7-8 grand on a B series with some bolt ons. That's right, even a B18c5. Why? Because so much more potential comes with these motors with not blowing every penny you have away. Like 95ProjectEj1 said, most of us who are the "everyday Honda owner" don't have buckets of money lying around, hence, we try to squeeze what we can out of a cheaper motor.

 

its 7k turn key for that to be installed by prefessional at hybrid performance... and thos emotors can hold 500whp on boost stock.. i say if you have deep pockets go K if u just wants quick go B and upgrade cause i have a jdm b16a in my sol its.. well slow haha you need to mod them

 

turbo d is the most cost affective for bieng fast..

but reliability u cant go wrong with K

 

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That's like swapping in a motor just because it has a red valve cover.

Oh wait.

Many roadracing critics don't recommend 6 speed gearboxes for new-intermediate drivers as it makes shifting/heel toe a bit different. Often involving more shifting.

If someone really bought a swap for the 6 speed they're plain retarded. Adding a 6spd to the civic was hondas marketing ploy to keep up with the 6-speed sport car model competition. I.E. - Lancers and Sti's.

 

most guys that drag racwe with the k want the 5 speed not the 6th..

 

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Very true, the ep3 tranny is sought after I'm sure.

 

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You won't get it from a reputable shop INSTALLED for 7k...you're lucky to get it for under 8k if you do all the fab work yourself.

It's what makes the K pathetic in every form. For 1/2 the price of a K swap you can turbo a GSR and make 150% the power of the K.

Only motor I know of that has to be tuned in STOCK form on an aftermarket ecu (which costs 1 grand), haha.

For the price to make 500whp on a K, you can make 500 a lot easier on a B series. The block may be able to hold fine, but you're starting out at what, 11.5:1 CR? It's a joke to boost, so you can load 10psi on a small turbo on it or so and still have pump gas, any more and you'll either have to use leaded fuel, load up on octane booster, or swap the internals...and unless ur running leaded **** u aren't gonna make 500 on stock ints - comp'll be too high. Block will be fine, but its other **** u gotta worry about.

K is a joke 'cause of fan boys who read too many "tuner" magazines, D, B, H, F, etc. ftw.

 

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This is the first incident I've heard of anyone doing it for less than $9,000.

I hope they're making money.

 

hybrid-performance... in neworleans .. they built the tangerine orange EJ hatch wi hteh k24/k20 swap that was on the cover of honda-tuning magazine a few months ago.. its 7k turnkey but thats for a cvici sI k20a3 the cost goes up a lil bit for the k20A2 nd k20A they make all the converison harnesses for the k -swaps .. if you buy a harness its 98% from them.. ***

 

Oh, 7k turnkey for an a3 is a load of crap. Those are junk in comparison.

I bet they charge 9-10k for an a2.