which tires are more fit for daily driving??? i like the falken azenis but they tread looks like they would wear out fast compared to the 712's .....can someone with the tires gimme some insight ..holla

 

i had the falken and i loved them but they wear down hella fast and they suck *** in the rain but they grab like a mother ******.

 

thanks....i figured they wear down fast just by lookin at em..but they are some tight *** looking tires though

 

I have both. But my Azenis are my competition tires. They DO NOT SUCK in the rain - they are actually better in the rain than the 712s, but the 712s will wear a bit longer than the Azenis. My last set of 712s lasted about 30K miles. My Azenis should last about 20K miles.

 

I favor the Azenis. The minor lack of milage is more than made up for by the extra grip they provide. They are a lot more fun to drive hard on, and certianly are a better competition tire than the 712's!

 

I heard the Azenis are good on wet roads, but not on standing water, like large puddles. Can you confirm or deny those reports CivicSiRacer?

I got caught in a couple of huge downpours yesterday and my 712's were brilliant.

 

kumho sucks. falkenz or yoko's

 

Any tire going through standing water will have problems. Just avoid them. And how often do you encounter standing water? I sure as heck don't - and must avoid them just incase since I a cold air intake.

 

I don't mean deep water, just puddles. Yah, my 712's will hydroplane above a certain speed. I'm just wondering if the Falkens hydroplane at a much lower speed bcasue there's so much less siping to evacuate water.

 

i would think the 712's would do better in puddles

 

I like the 712's They are a great 'beginner' competition tire because they provide a lot of feedback at the limit. They are plenty sticky for me and they arn't too loud.

Mike


[Modified by 92sleepR, 5:56 PM 6/17/2002]

 

I like the 712's b/c they last longer
I dont drive my baby in the rain NEways (thats what girl friends are for)

 

I had no problems in my car with the azenis in standing/puddled water or downpour, they actually are one of the best tires i have ever used, with the exception of the now defunct yokohama AVSi... azenis are a great choice

 

I currently and working on killing my 195/60VR14 AVS-I, which I love in the dry and light rain. In moderate to heavy rain they suck, but I knew that to begin with so I just slow down. After these die, I am going to Azenis RS. My friend has them on his WRX and can't believe how good they are.

 

I have the Kumhos and they are quiet, and perform well in all conditions. If you are looking for a good daily driver tire then I would recommend these. Smooth ride, lasts long(er), quiet, and still performs.