ok so i got a d16a6 and i installed it into my car but it came with no dizzy so i used the one from my previous motor so i put on the dizzy just like that and tighten the 3 screws what i wanted to know is that could my timing be off just cause i put the dizzy on like that without adjusting with timing light

 

yes

 

could it be by alot even if i tried the ear trick

 

i guess it depends on your ear. i would just check it with the timing light and then you know for sure if it is correct, and if it isnt you can correct it.

 

to check this timing this is the one where im suppose to go under the dash and do that thing with the paper clip and then loosen the 3 bolts from dizzy and point timing light to pulley and move the dizzy till it lines up with the line with the one on the plastic cover covering the timing belt

 

you're timing won't be off. the ECU corrects it if it isnt adjust it right. you will be fine

 

what now im confused

 

trust me. ive repalced my dizzy a million times and only checked my timing once. the ECU corrects it.

 

i duno, i did the same thing (pulled the dizzy off of an a6 to put on a zc) and it was slightly off. i guess your best solution would be if it seems like it is off and you have reason to believe that it is off then check it, if things seem fine then it is probably fine.

 

ill check it just to make sure cause sometimes my car does feel like if it doesnt accelarate right when i floor it then all of a sudden it pulls hard then it goes back to how it was

 

Do the timing. As far as the ECU correcting it NO. It will try to make up for it. The ECU assumes that the timing is set correctly and will go from there.

It will make corrections, but the corrections it does to the advance will be making up for poor running. Also it doesn't do anything at idle. Remember the ecu can only correct things so far, it has it's limits too.

Please have your timing set correctly. You could be off as far as 10deg. Not good.

I have done some tests using my smog machine and as little as two degrees can make a big difference.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by thesmogman &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Do the timing. As far as the ECU correcting it NO. It will try to make up for it. The ECU assumes that the timing is set correctly and will go from there.

It will make corrections, but the corrections it does to the advance will be making up for poor running. Also it doesn't do anything at idle. Remember the ecu can only correct things so far, it has it's limits too.

Please have your timing set correctly. You could be off as far as 10deg. Not good.

I have done some tests using my smog machine and as little as two degrees can make a big difference.

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thats what i was thinking. i had never heard that the ecu corrects timing, if that were the case then no one would ever need to adjust it properly

 

another question does not having your timing set correctly make u lose power

 

the ECU DOES correct timing. get a timing light, loosen you're dizzy and try it. i guarantee that the mark does not move unless you move it all the way very quickly. why do you think its necessary to jump the service connector? because the correct timing is programmed into the ECU.
heres my setup:
SOHC ZC
PM6 ECU
OBD0 LS dizzy
i have done this experiment so don't tell me im wrong.
and yes, if you're timing is incorrect you will lose power.

 

im new to all this timing i never even tried messing with the timing but i know right now my car is not running good and i know its the timing cause like when im like at a red light like all of a sudden it wants to die the idle feels all like **** sometimes

 

put you're dizzy centered in the mounting tabs. check the timing with a light. how do you know its the timing?

 

i dont know something tells me its the timing cause i think if something were wrong it would give me a code in my ecu but i giot no codes and sometimes my idle is very shitty when in complete stop like if it wants to die then regains power only sometimes i get a smooth idle thats when my car runs good

 

does it only happen when warm? how does your powerband feel?

 

its like sometimes i get a clean smooth idle like smooth then sometimes my idle sounds weird like if somethings wrong like if it hesitates to stay on like you know if u where to move the dizzy all the way to advanced and it sounds like it wants to die thats how it sounds sometimes at complete stop oh and the power band its like when i step on it a little it pulls but then i floor it and like it doesnt let it self go like if it pulls more when i barely step on it then when i floor it, when i floor it you could hear the intake more

 

is you're cam timing correct? get a timing light and check you're dizzy timing as well

 

cam timing as in the cam gear that one i dont know could it be that one thats off