This might have been discussed before but i haven't seen anyone talk of it. But where exactly could i get a turbo for my accord. 94 ex with F22B1. Are there any websites or antying i can get pricing from and stuff. And if so what would i be looking at cost wise? And how much hp can the stock tranny take before it has problems? Its automatic unfortunenatly.

 

Lots of questions here....

Sourcing a turbo. Your best bet is to browse and search the H-T Sponsors, and H-T Marketplace forums. I picked up all of my turbo parts here, always finding a great deal. e-Bay is always an option, but sellers are rarely thorough, and honest in their descriptions. I'd suggest staying away. Like I said, most of the good suppliers for these parts can be found in the Sponsor Forums.

What pricing are you asking for? Turbos themselves can run from $200 for a decent one stripped from a DSM, to $3-4,000 for an all-out race model, but you really shouldn't spend more than $1,300-1400 for a very nice model, even if you have the $$$. I picked up a dual-ball bearing, oil and water cooled Precision SC50 brand new that had been ported by Endyne, from a sponsor for $950 that would normally cost about $1500. Again, Sponsor FTW.

Stock automatic transmission... There's no way to say. Some Accord owners have seen 200+ wheel hp with an automatic, while others have babied their cars with a bone stock motor, and had transmission failure. From my experience, 180-200hp on an automatic is the max you should see, before you're nearly guaranteed to blow it.

My suggestion would be to do a 5-speed swap before investing in power adders. It won't be as costly as the turbo setup, and while not unbreakable, it will be a much more reliable drive train, whether stock, or making 250+ whp.

 

Well for one i don't really think i can tackle the whole 5 speed swap thing. Cuz ive read on here how to do it. Im about to go to school to work on cars. But this is my daily driver so i need it to be in working order for most of the time. I have a back up car but it gets horrible gas mileage so i can't afford to drive it for a long time. And i need to kno what kinds of parts i need to look for when doing a turbo. Like what parts i will need to bolt it all in. And what psi can i run on the stock motor without risk of blowing things. I just wanna run like 200hp and make it a lil faster without haveing to do an engine swap or nething. I might consider the 5spd swap but then again idk where to get the tranny from? If anyone could help me on this stuff i would greatly appreciate it.

 

ok.... your gonna spend somewhere 1000 dollars if you piece together a turbo kit....and that is bying the cheapest stuff around. And going turbo isnt relieble and going turbo on stock internals is especially not relieble. What i would do is bye a H22 longblock which will cost around 1000 but you can definently pick one up for alot cheaper. An h22 longblock will also bolt straight up to your f22 tranny. And doing this swap is about the same work as turboing a car.... So if you want something relieble and put out around the same hp just go with the sawp.... trust me... you'll love it

 

Alright... Not to be an ***, but you don't come off as someone who is capable of taking on the difficult job of turbocharging a car.

1. Installing a turbo setup, assuming you've sourced every single required part the first time, is not a simple matter. Whether a pre-packaged kit, or custom sourced setup, there are hours and hours involved in achieving correct fitment, modifying parts that need modification, and not to mention the hours tuning to make it run correctly, and safely.

2. You are GUARANTEED to have excessive downtime with a turbo setup. Install is far from simple, things break constantly, and there's always potential for the entire project blowing up without warning.

3. It really sounds as though you have just greatly, i meant GREATLY underestimated the time, labor, and money that goes into creating a successful turbo setup.

Read up on all of this stuff. If you can't find out where to source extremely common parts such as transmissions, do not understand the concept that "PSI" has NO relevance to potential power, and don't seem to understand the importance of correct tuning, then I STRONGLY suggest you put the idea off for a long while and just read, research, and continue to ask simple questions as you've done.

Again, it isn't my intent to demean you, it is simply my strong opinion that you do not comprehend the difficulty involved, and knowledge required for this project.


He's correct on a few points. $1000 MIGHT get you the cheapest stuff possible, but that WILL NOT get you a working turbo setup. Also, a turbo setup is usually not reliable, atleast by H-T users' standards. Take a look.

Cheap. Reliable. Fast.

Choose two of the above. That's all you're going to get. For example, if you want it to be cheap, and reliable, it won't be 'fast.' Generally meaning you'll have to have a low boost setup, which with the auto transmission will yield very minimal gains. The failure rate of the auto transmissions only lessens the reliability of the entire setup.

If you want fast and reliable, it won't be cheap. And if you want fast and cheap, it obviously won't be reliable. These are guidelines to live by.

Swapping an H22 into the car is still considerably more straight forward than a turbo setup. Almost as simple as removing an engine, harness, and ECU, and replacing it with another.

On the other hand, an H22 swap will not yield the same results as a mild, but decent turbo setup. Assuming you build a low boost application, you could expect to gain maybe 40-50 wheel hp, resulting in 170-190whp; somewhere close to what an H22 would deliver. But then you have to consider torque. A stock H22 producing 175whp, might also produce 150wheel torque, while a mildly boosted F23 producing 175whp, will normally produce 175-180 wheel torque. The numbers only grow further from there.

In conclusion, a well built F23 turbo setup is a beautiful thing, but it's far from easy to complete. An H22 swap is a very viable option, which might give you the increase you're looking for, with a LOT less work, and less money in the long run. My suggestion still stands though... Find the time and knowledge to complete the 5-speed swap, and the skill you gain by doing so will put you well on your way to which ever project you choose.

EDIT: Took me 5minutes to spell check this because of the two quotes. lol