help with cam choice
i want to get some cam for my gsr and i was reading on here that itr intake and ctr exhaust would be the best but i would like to here from people what they think about that setup on a gsr myself
The CTR and ITR exhaust camshafts are identical; both have the same part number. The intake cams differ slightly.
The CTR and 2000-2001 USDM ITR intake camshafts have slightly more duration than the 1997-1998 USDM ITR intake.
The CTR and 2000-2001 USDM ITR intake camshafts have slightly more duration than the 1997-1998 USDM ITR intake.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 98integralsB18 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">get skunk2 stage 2 they kick ***. or crower 403/404</TD></TR></TABLE>
crower 404's r non-vtec
crower 404's r non-vtec
well i wana build rite now and i'm planning turbo .... but cams are one thing i want to get at the moment i heard that itr cams are cheaper and easier to put in
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You would be better off saving for the turbo. If you just drop the cams in your not going to see much for power gains, you could actually even loose power. What mods do you have right now?
You would be better off saving for the turbo. If you just drop the cams in your not going to see much for power gains, you could actually even loose power. What mods do you have right now?
how would you lose power? What you should do is buy some itr valve train and get some bc spec 3+ cams. A really good midrange cam. Get a NICE header and exhaust, and an intake. Then throw a tune on it. Itll be a fun little can then.
But if you turbo it stock I have friends making 311 on 10 pounds.
But if you turbo it stock I have friends making 311 on 10 pounds.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by skata89 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">how would you lose power? What you should do is buy some itr valve train and get some bc spec 3+ cams. A really good midrange cam. Get a NICE header and exhaust, and an intake. Then throw a tune on it. Itll be a fun little can then.
But if you turbo it stock I have friends making 311 on 10 pounds.</TD></TR></TABLE>
There is a chance you might lose power because your putting higher lift cams in without adjusting the fuel and igntion maps or the timing. If you had a ITR ecu to go along with it that would be a different story. The buddy club spec 3 cams plus valve train plus a nice exhaust header and intake is going to run him well over 1500 bucks and you could easily have a decent turbo kit for that.
And you dont not have friends making 311 on 10lbs stock.
But if you turbo it stock I have friends making 311 on 10 pounds.</TD></TR></TABLE>
There is a chance you might lose power because your putting higher lift cams in without adjusting the fuel and igntion maps or the timing. If you had a ITR ecu to go along with it that would be a different story. The buddy club spec 3 cams plus valve train plus a nice exhaust header and intake is going to run him well over 1500 bucks and you could easily have a decent turbo kit for that.
And you dont not have friends making 311 on 10lbs stock.
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15hp for $1000 FTW!
15hp for $1000 FTW!
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Rick to the y »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">skunk2 stage 2 with supertech valvesprings and reatiners and a tune. do it.</TD></TR></TABLE>
nice suggestion for someone wanting to boost
nice suggestion for someone wanting to boost
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And you dont not have friends making 311 on 10lbs stock.</TD></TR></TABLE>
it's entirely possible. but without knowing the setup, not credible at this point.
And you dont not have friends making 311 on 10lbs stock.</TD></TR></TABLE>
it's entirely possible. but without knowing the setup, not credible at this point.
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nice suggestion for someone wanting to boost
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but he'll be the coolest kid in the block! not often do you hear of people boostin' and runnin stage 2 cams
nice suggestion for someone wanting to boost
</TD></TR></TABLE>but he'll be the coolest kid in the block! not often do you hear of people boostin' and runnin stage 2 cams
ok my setup rite now is:
B18C engine
Blox intake manifold
x-s power header
custom done 2.5 inch pipe
phearable e.c.u
LS tranny!!!!!
soo.... on stock internals wat can i boost n get away with easy.. i hear 8 lbs to 10lbs
Modified by unrivaledintegra at 2:09 AM 9/15/2007
B18C engine
Blox intake manifold
x-s power header
custom done 2.5 inch pipe
phearable e.c.u
LS tranny!!!!!
soo.... on stock internals wat can i boost n get away with easy.. i hear 8 lbs to 10lbs
Modified by unrivaledintegra at 2:09 AM 9/15/2007
You can get the bc3 cams for 512, then buy some itr valve train for maybe 250 then cam gears for 150 and tune.
And as for my friend making 311, how can that not be possible? Can you prove to me that a stock gsr CANT hold that?
And as for my friend making 311, how can that not be possible? Can you prove to me that a stock gsr CANT hold that?
Save up for your turbo setup. Yes, the cams will help, but if you're on a budget, they're not neccessary. You can always run stock cams (like me) until you can afford to upgrade. Be patient and dont waste your money on stupid things. Think BIG picture and wait...its well worth it 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by St Jimmy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">and you dont not have friends making 311 on 10lbs stock.</TD></TR></TABLE>
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by skata89 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">And as for my friend making 311, how can that not be possible? Can you prove to me that a stock gsr CANT hold that?</TD></TR></TABLE>
315whp/216wtq on my DD GSR w/ stock bottom end...its possible
here's the graph AT 10PSI that proves it...

Still want to doubt it?
Modified by Schister66 at 8:07 AM 9/17/2007

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by St Jimmy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">and you dont not have friends making 311 on 10lbs stock.</TD></TR></TABLE>
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by skata89 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">And as for my friend making 311, how can that not be possible? Can you prove to me that a stock gsr CANT hold that?</TD></TR></TABLE>
315whp/216wtq on my DD GSR w/ stock bottom end...its possible
here's the graph AT 10PSI that proves it...

Still want to doubt it?
Modified by Schister66 at 8:07 AM 9/17/2007
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Still want to doubt it?
Modified by Schister66 at 8:07 AM 9/17/2007</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yes, thats not stock.
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And as for my friend making 311, how can that not be possible? Can you prove to me that a stock gsr CANT hold that?</TD></TR></TABLE>
I like how you consider a turbo stock. If a integra make 311 stock, then a C6 vette makes 1000+hp stock right?
Still want to doubt it?
Modified by Schister66 at 8:07 AM 9/17/2007</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yes, thats not stock.
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And as for my friend making 311, how can that not be possible? Can you prove to me that a stock gsr CANT hold that?</TD></TR></TABLE>
I like how you consider a turbo stock. If a integra make 311 stock, then a C6 vette makes 1000+hp stock right?
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Yes, thats not stock
I like how you consider a turbo stock. If a integra make 311 stock, then a C6 vette makes 1000+hp stock right?
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I'm not the one who said having a turbo isn't stock. I was simply refuting your original statement below that ignores the fact that it is turbocharged, and addresses the fact that it is "impossible" to make 3xxwhp on 10psi on a stock GSR. I dont care what you consider "stock" but most of US consider "stock" as the bottom end.
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And you dont not have friends making 311 on 10lbs stock.</TD></TR></TABLE>
You can twist your statements and attempt to wiggle your way out of this whole mess, but the easiest way to end this thing w/o a huge, pointless arguement is to accept that there was a misunderstanding in the wording or that you were wrong. Those are the two options as i see it. You make the choice...
Yes, thats not stock
I like how you consider a turbo stock. If a integra make 311 stock, then a C6 vette makes 1000+hp stock right?
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I'm not the one who said having a turbo isn't stock. I was simply refuting your original statement below that ignores the fact that it is turbocharged, and addresses the fact that it is "impossible" to make 3xxwhp on 10psi on a stock GSR. I dont care what you consider "stock" but most of US consider "stock" as the bottom end.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by St Jimmy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
And you dont not have friends making 311 on 10lbs stock.</TD></TR></TABLE>
You can twist your statements and attempt to wiggle your way out of this whole mess, but the easiest way to end this thing w/o a huge, pointless arguement is to accept that there was a misunderstanding in the wording or that you were wrong. Those are the two options as i see it. You make the choice...
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I'm not the one who said having a turbo isn't stock. I was simply refuting your original statement below that ignores the fact that it is turbocharged, and addresses the fact that it is "impossible" to make 3xxwhp on 10psi on a stock GSR. I dont care what you consider "stock" but most of US consider "stock" as the bottom end.
You can twist your statements and attempt to wiggle your way out of this whole mess, but the easiest way to end this thing w/o a huge, pointless arguement is to accept that there was a misunderstanding in the wording or that you were wrong. Those are the two options as i see it. You make the choice...</TD></TR></TABLE>
Wow whats up Mr. Drama Queen hows high school? Sorry I didnt mean to burst your bubble, but I still see no idea how you think a turbo is stock. We are talking about hondas right?
I'm not the one who said having a turbo isn't stock. I was simply refuting your original statement below that ignores the fact that it is turbocharged, and addresses the fact that it is "impossible" to make 3xxwhp on 10psi on a stock GSR. I dont care what you consider "stock" but most of US consider "stock" as the bottom end.
You can twist your statements and attempt to wiggle your way out of this whole mess, but the easiest way to end this thing w/o a huge, pointless arguement is to accept that there was a misunderstanding in the wording or that you were wrong. Those are the two options as i see it. You make the choice...</TD></TR></TABLE>
Wow whats up Mr. Drama Queen hows high school? Sorry I didnt mean to burst your bubble, but I still see no idea how you think a turbo is stock. We are talking about hondas right?
But if you <U>turbo</U> it STOCK I have friends making 311 on 10 pounds.
Doesnt that mean putting a turbo on a Stock motor? Or are you just stupid and want some attention?
Doesnt that mean putting a turbo on a Stock motor? Or are you just stupid and want some attention?
If you're going turbo anyway, keep the gsr cams. They have been proven to be some
of the best turbo cams for a B-series-stock or aftermarket. They have pretty high lift
and low duration-PERFECT for turbo applications.
of the best turbo cams for a B-series-stock or aftermarket. They have pretty high lift
and low duration-PERFECT for turbo applications.



