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Old Sep 8, 2007 | 10:09 AM
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car is a 2000 ex with jdm b18c-r..... to make a long story short...let my buddy drive and he did the redline 3rd to 2nd when going for 4th and i ended up with 12 bent valves and what seemed to be a destroyed clutch...i dropped the tranny and did the clutch torqued to spec put back together bleed and it still wont go into any gear when the car is running..when the car is off it goes into every gear with ease...i have the tranny back off and i cracked it open and see no sign of anything being wrong and plan on doing a slave and MC??? when i had the d series in the clutch chattered bad but i dont see any sign of a leak. could it be the MC or slave without leaks?? help please with opinions??? thanks
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Old Sep 8, 2007 | 11:18 AM
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Are you sure you installed the clutch correctly?
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Old Sep 8, 2007 | 11:34 AM
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yeah...the disk is bigger on one side and will only go on one way or it will not sit flush
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Old Sep 8, 2007 | 11:51 AM
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Bet you won't let anyone else drive it again...
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Old Sep 8, 2007 | 11:53 AM
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no sir^^^ i wont
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Old Sep 8, 2007 | 12:51 PM
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Had the same problem you just described. Everybody insisted it was the clutch. I pulled the transmisson off three times, replaced the clutch twice, and replaced the clutch master/slave cylinder, which didn't fix the problem. When I pulled the transmission off the third time I observed the throwout bearing was barley making contact with the clutch fingers. I pulled the clutch release fork out and compared it to a new one and discovered the fork was bent about an 1/8 inch. I replaced the clutch release fork and haven't had a problem since.
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Old Sep 8, 2007 | 12:56 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jdmegmong &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Had the same problem you just described. Everybody insisted it was the clutch. I pulled the transmisson off three times, replaced the clutch twice, and replaced the clutch master/slave cylinder, which didn't fix the problem. When I pulled the transmission off the third time I observed the throwout bearing was barley making contact with the clutch fingers. I pulled the clutch release fork out and compared it to a new one and discovered the fork was bent about an 1/8 inch. I replaced the clutch release fork and haven't had a problem since. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Good advice.
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Old Sep 8, 2007 | 12:58 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jdmegmong &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Had the same problem you just described. Everybody insisted it was the clutch. I pulled the transmisson off three times, replaced the clutch twice, and replaced the clutch master/slave cylinder, which didn't fix the problem. When I pulled the transmission off the third time I observed the throwout bearing was barley making contact with the clutch fingers. I pulled the clutch release fork out and compared it to a new one and discovered the fork was bent about an 1/8 inch. I replaced the clutch release fork and haven't had a problem since. </TD></TR></TABLE>

^^^thanks man...GREAT response!!!
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Old Sep 8, 2007 | 01:07 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jdmegmong &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Had the same problem you just described. Everybody insisted it was the clutch. I pulled the transmisson off three times, replaced the clutch twice, and replaced the clutch master/slave cylinder, which didn't fix the problem. When I pulled the transmission off the third time I observed the throwout bearing was barley making contact with the clutch fingers. I pulled the clutch release fork out and compared it to a new one and discovered the fork was bent about an 1/8 inch. I replaced the clutch release fork and haven't had a problem since. </TD></TR></TABLE>

what did you do to bent it exacly?? over rev like what happened to me?
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Old Sep 8, 2007 | 03:45 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ricekiller1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

what did you do to bent it exacly?? over rev like what happened to me?</TD></TR></TABLE>

I had done the same thing, and it was caused by exploding the clutch. I guess the disc exploded, and jammed the pressure plate against the throw out bearing, and thus bending the arm!
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Old Sep 8, 2007 | 06:02 PM
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at first look did you notice it was warped or did it take a new one to compare it too??
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Old Sep 8, 2007 | 07:18 PM
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Your clutch is fizzzzucked!
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Old Sep 9, 2007 | 05:10 AM
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^^^did you not read the post???...my clutch is brand new...not even a mile on it yet...please responed with EDUCATED HELPFUL info....thanks everyone
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Old Sep 9, 2007 | 03:41 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ricekiller1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">^^^did you not read the post???...my clutch is brand new...not even a mile on it yet...please responed with EDUCATED HELPFUL info....thanks everyone</TD></TR></TABLE> again, your clutch is FIZZZZUCKKEEDD. Most likely there is a problem with your pressure plate. Or maybe you (or whoever installed it) installed it wrong. Pull it back off, make sure all bolts are tight and in right holes. Also pull the clutch off and inspect pressure plate for any abnormal stress cracks in both the teeth and the surface of the plate. Does it make any chattering noise? If so, Your problem lies with the pressure plate. Is that INTELLIGENT ENOUGH FOR YOU? haha
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Old Sep 9, 2007 | 03:57 PM
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actually no...haha...its not.. ...its not the clutch!!!... maybe the clutch release fork...
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Old Sep 10, 2007 | 02:42 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ricekiller1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">actually no...haha...its not.. ...its not the clutch!!!... maybe the clutch release fork...</TD></TR></TABLE> you could be right... never heard of them bending, but there is always a first time for everything... well if you have the tranny off already, just compare it to another one... should be easy enough, and if thats all it was then you got off lucky!! haha good luck dood
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Old Sep 10, 2007 | 03:23 PM
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well if you scroll up a little jdmegmong had it happen to him and ive been researching a little and its not rare by any means...lauching with slicks or a real heave duty clutch with an unsprung disk and a lot of HP can even do it...people are sayin that the shock of the over rev may have bent it when my pressure plate let go
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Old Sep 11, 2007 | 06:06 PM
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Old Sep 12, 2007 | 12:34 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ricekiller1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well if you scroll up a little jdmegmong had it happen to him and ive been researching a little and its not rare by any means...lauching with slicks or a real heave duty clutch with an unsprung disk and a lot of HP can even do it...people are sayin that the shock of the over rev may have bent it when my pressure plate let go
</TD></TR></TABLE> Woah.. crazy. Weld a piece of steel behind it... hahaha "ghetto rig"
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Old Sep 12, 2007 | 01:40 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ricekiller1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">car is a 2000 ex with jdm b18c-r..... to make a long story short...let my buddy drive and he did the redline 3rd to 2nd when going for 4th and i ended up with 12 bent valves and what seemed to be a destroyed clutch...i dropped the tranny and did the clutch torqued to spec put back together bleed and it still wont go into any gear when the car is running..when the car is off it goes into every gear with ease...i have the tranny back off and i cracked it open and see no sign of anything being wrong and plan on doing a slave and MC??? when i had the d series in the clutch chattered bad but i dont see any sign of a leak. could it be the MC or slave without leaks?? help please with opinions??? thanks </TD></TR></TABLE>

I had the same problem... turns out the mechanic installed the clutch disk backwards , i fixed it myself and been working on my own cars ever since.
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