CA Bureau of Automotive Repair (BAR, State ref'd, certified, etc.)

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Old Sep 7, 2007 | 12:14 AM
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So I'm looking at BAR'ing my crx. I have a jdm b16a obd0 and I need to convert to obd1 before I try to pass it (b16's didn't come that year in the US, therefore, obd0 will not pass). Anyways, I know I need the obd0-obd1 conversion harness, VTEC distributor, and 4 wire o2 sensor...my question is, since the manifold has to be US, and not JDM, which manifold do I use? Will any VTec obd1 manifold be ok? Or will it have to be a DOHC manifold? Will they all bolt up perfectly? Any modifications that I will have to do?

Also about the 4 wire o2 sensor...I will have to drill into the stock header/manifold to add this right? Since the 4 wire has to read all 4 cylinders, and the stock o2 sensor(s) do not...if so, would just a regular metal bit get through it? ANd then I have to use a tap/dye set right?


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Old Sep 7, 2007 | 02:15 AM
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you need to convert to the 99-00 civic si manifold off of that b16 you also need the ecu and you need to convert to whatever obd that engine is
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Old Sep 7, 2007 | 10:32 AM
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Which engine? My b16 I have right now or the 99-00 civic engine? I don't want to go to obd2...I have an obd-0 car with an obd-0 engine...not even a del sol b16 would work?
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Old Sep 7, 2007 | 10:47 AM
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the Del Sol Dohc is the motor you need to base off of.
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Old Sep 7, 2007 | 04:16 PM
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Awesome, that's what I needed. Thank you.

If anyone has any more information about this topic, please don't hesitate to make a response. TIA.
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Old Sep 7, 2007 | 04:36 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by APEX CRX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the Del Sol Dohc is the motor you need to base off of.</TD></TR></TABLE>


oh yeah lol i forgot about that base it off of that
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Old Nov 5, 2007 | 01:05 AM
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So that's all you need to get certified, its correct ecu, exhaust manifold, and o2 sensors? Do you need any type of paper work for the engine and stuff. If i can fix my clutch situation and decide not to get rid of my hatch then I would like to bar it as well. Sorry to thread jack, i was also interested.
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Old Nov 5, 2007 | 06:55 AM
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from what i remember you will not be able to pass ref with a jumper harness. Correct me if i am wrong please.

I have an appointment tomorrow, i will find out for sure.
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Old Nov 5, 2007 | 11:40 AM
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from my experience a jumper will work eventhough it specifically states in the guidelines that now modifications to the wiring should be done. this was a couple of years ago though so I'm not sure if they are even more strict now.
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Old Nov 5, 2007 | 01:50 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ef9robert &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">from what i remember you will not be able to pass ref with a jumper harness. Correct me if i am wrong please.

I have an appointment tomorrow, i will find out for sure.</TD></TR></TABLE>

You are wrong, corrected.

Also, here is a pic for reference, its my old B16 that i ref'd:

Intake manifold : 94-95 Del Sol P30 dohc, also note purge solenoid mounting.
Header: DC sports, application is for a 94-95 Del Sol dohc
Intake pipe/filter: Not legal for inspection, i chose to run a jdm ef8/9 intake arm and box and it passed.
Throttle body: 94-95 GSR, looks exactly the same as the del sol dohc one but has slightly bigger opening (ref's dont know the difference).

Edit: also there are other wiring modifications that are needed under the dash besides the use of a jumper harness. You need the "check engine light" connector (2 pin) as well as the "Data Link" connector (3 pin) wired in. If u have no idea what these things are i suggest u buy a del sol service manual and start going over the diagrams. You can source these connectors from pretty much any obd-1 Honda/Acura in the junkyard.


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Old Nov 5, 2007 | 06:49 PM
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car is not ready, will need to do schedule another appointment.
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