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Old Sep 4, 2007 | 03:37 PM
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I have an 89 civic ef9 4speed with a d15a in it when u do a swap like a b16a1 do u have to change the steering knuckles and some other stuff someone told me that things needed to be replaced I need some help on this
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Old Sep 4, 2007 | 04:30 PM
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EF9 Actual, or are you just slinging JDM code? Assuming you actually have the USDM car, the following items will need to be changed for the larger B-Series axles -

Steering Knuckles --> Can be replaced with the following, from better to worse
1. 90-91 Civic EX Sedan Knuckles (10.3" Brakes, Perfect Geometry)
2. 90-93 Integra Any Model Knuckles (10.3" Brakes, Geometry is altered)
3. 88-91 SI Knuckles
4. 88-91 DX/LX Knuckles

Do not use HF or STD knuckles.
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Old Sep 4, 2007 | 07:42 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ninjagaiden &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have an 89 civic ef9 4speed with a d15a in it</TD></TR></TABLE>
No you don't.

EF9s didn't come in "4-speed D15A" flavor.

You have an ED6.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">when u do a swap like a b16a1 do u have to change the steering knuckles and some other stuff </TD></TR></TABLE>
Yes. Civic STD and CRX HF axles have different front hubs and outer CVs vs. all other USDM Civic models.

To swap a B-series into a STD or HF, you must use knuckles from a DX/LX/Si or an EX, which have hubs that will accept a B-series axle.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dr_latino999 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Steering Knuckles --&gt; Can be replaced with the following, from better to worse
1. 90-91 Civic EX Sedan Knuckles (10.3" Brakes, Perfect Geometry)
2. 90-93 Integra Any Model Knuckles (10.3" Brakes, Geometry is altered)
3. 88-91 SI Knuckles
4. 88-91 DX/LX Knuckles</TD></TR></TABLE>
Si trim uses the exact same knuckles as DX and LX trim.
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Old Sep 4, 2007 | 08:04 PM
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Aren't the SI Brake slightly different in thickness of the pads and rotors?
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Old Sep 4, 2007 | 08:07 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dr_latino999 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Aren't the SI Brake slightly different in thickness of the pads and rotors?</TD></TR></TABLE>

on 90-91 CRX Si's ONLY, slightly different calipers as well
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Old Sep 4, 2007 | 08:26 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dr_latino999 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Aren't the SI Brake slightly different in thickness of the pads and rotors?</TD></TR></TABLE>
The Civic Si uses the exact same brake system as the DX.

The '88-89 CRX Si has the same brakes as the DX. '90-91 Si CRXen use the same knuckles and rotors up front but have a slightly beefier Nissin 16CL13VN caliper (taken from the Prelude S model of that era) that uses FMSI D373 pads, as opposed to the smaller unmarked calipers with D273 pads. This caliper bolts right up to any '88-91 DX/LX/Si knuckle.
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Old Sep 5, 2007 | 12:14 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Targa250R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
The Civic Si uses the exact same brake system as the DX.

The '88-89 CRX Si has the same brakes as the DX. '90-91 Si CRXen use the same knuckles and rotors up front but have a slightly beefier Nissin 16CL13VN caliper (taken from the Prelude S model of that era) that uses FMSI D373 pads, as opposed to the smaller unmarked calipers with D273 pads. This caliper bolts right up to any '88-91 DX/LX/Si knuckle.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I like how the people that make my cup of noodles makes my calipers also
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Old Sep 5, 2007 | 02:59 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Zaakro &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I like how the people that make my cup of noodles makes my calipers also </TD></TR></TABLE>
Nissin Food Products Co. and Nissin Kogyo are not the same thing
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Old Sep 5, 2007 | 10:41 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Targa250R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Nissin Food Products Co. and Nissin Kogyo are not the same thing </TD></TR></TABLE>

they have some what of the same logo



whats that caliper from by the way 17CL14VN
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Old Sep 5, 2007 | 10:47 AM
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Zaakro speaks the trufus rufus!
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Old Sep 5, 2007 | 08:03 PM
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I think you guys scared the OP away lol.
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Old Sep 5, 2007 | 09:50 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Zaakro &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

they have some what of the same logo



whats that caliper from by the way 17CL14VN</TD></TR></TABLE>

damn did you actually take that picture? funny as hell! I always thought it was weird myself
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Old Sep 5, 2007 | 10:59 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Pee Wee &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

damn did you actually take that picture? funny as hell! I always thought it was weird myself</TD></TR></TABLE>

yeah i did take it
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Old Sep 6, 2007 | 10:19 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Zaakro &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">they have some what of the same logo

whats that caliper from by the way 17CL14VN</TD></TR></TABLE>
Funny

The 17CL14VN caliper itself was used on several different Honda cars, but with two different brackets - the bracket determines which pad the car takes, not the caliper.

Cars with Nissin 17CL14VN front calipers include:
- '86-90 Legend: D409 pad
- '88-89 Accord LX-i & SE-i: D409 pad
- '88-91 Prelude Si: D409 pad
- '90-91 Civic EX: D409 pad
- '90-93 Integra: D409 pad
- '92-95 Civic w/ABS: D617 pad
- '94-01 Integra (except ITR): D617 pad
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Old Sep 7, 2007 | 02:11 PM
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thanks everyone
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